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SilverMk2
03-02-2007, 01:49 PM
In order to keep things in an easier to find reference for the future. Please post any wheels the fit a Mk2. Please provide details you know such as;

L type or P-type
offset(s)
Manufacturer
pictures (preferably on the car)
estimated cost
tire size(s)
anything else that is relevant (rubs, spacers, etc)

Just one for me;

http://www.pbase.com/silvermk2/image/73057650.jpg

16x8" 0 offset Epsilon mesh with 245/45/16

No longer available new

No rubbing or anything. Will not fit Jim's front big brake kit.

CJSREDPRA
03-02-2007, 06:38 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/looperboy81/2005_0812Image0183.jpg

Close-up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/looperboy81/2005_0812Image0184.jpg

Side view. Gives you an idea on the amount of "lip'age" this wheel setup has.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/looperboy81/2005_0812Image0185.jpg

16 x 8" 0mm offset Compomotive CXN mesh w/ 245/45/16 Yokohama AVS Intermediates (tire model has been discontinued). Black satin/powdercoated finish. Centerbore IS hubcentric

Cost (back in 2001) was $1,5K (not including tires). Current cost will fluctuate, DEPENDING on the current exchange rate between the US dollar & the UK pound, as the components are imported in from the UK.

The ONLY place in the US where you can order them, is from Motorsports Specialties in Quarryville, Pennsylvania (www.usacomp.com). They will build the wheels to your specs. They ARE aware of our P-Type wheel requirements.

Be aware that their "0mm" offset ACTUALLY measures out to a -3mm offset & the wheels/tires will stick out a tiny bit on the front wheels. When Bob Sully (Malibyte) ordered a 2nd set of wheels for one of his other MKII's, he went with a +5mm offset. Looks a little more tucked in, but "I think" on his Red 85, he had caliper clearance issues. But the wheels fit fine on his 84 7M car.

No other rubbing anyware. "Obviously", spacers or adapters are not needed.

Wheels WILL clear the Jim King BBK, since these are the same wheels that Jim used during development/test fitting of the BBK.

[Edit] Anyone out their with "ANY" of the Centerline models have pictures & can do a write-up??

Junkie
03-02-2007, 07:07 PM
SSR Longchamps Gunmetal = 17x7 +25 front,17x8 +25 rear.

Perfect fit IMHO with 225/45 front,255/40 rear

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/srpmech/DSC00452.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/srpmech/DSC00458.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/srpmech/DSC00459.jpg

Silver wheels = 17x7 +25 front,17x7.5 + 35 rear additional 25mm adapter on rear.
Ken ??? Tires = 215/45 all 4 corners

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/srpmech/DSC00456.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/srpmech/DSC00451.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/srpmech/DSC00450.jpg

Dangerous Ken
03-02-2007, 07:31 PM
Let's see, stuff Shawn left out.

L type.

SSR is Speed Star Racing, 'Longchamps' are model XR-4Z.
There is another style 'Longchamp' in 14/15", model XR-4.

Cost - under a grand if found, no longer available new.

Also, I got 235/40/17 size rubber on the rear now (7.5j rim, 8.5" measured).

Ken

Superium
03-02-2007, 08:51 PM
Enkei 92s
Sizes: 16x7, 15x7 (most popular)
Offsets: 0, +10, +20, +25, +35
Tire Size: 225/50/16
Info: Discontinued, price varies by seller, 1-piece aluminum
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/superium/Enkeis/enkei4.jpg

Daves2JZGTE
03-03-2007, 12:20 AM
P type
16x8@0 front
17x9.5@-6 rear
Centerline Thrusters. I think the name changed now.
Front tire 245/45/16
Rear tire 275/45/17 next tire will be 255/40/17

Had to shave the rear flare to get the 275 to fit.

not hubcentric but i got hubcentric rings made for them

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f62/onedic/daves_supra.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f62/onedic/DSC_0290.jpg

zank
03-03-2007, 12:33 AM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/zanktwo/My%20mkii/DSC00082.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/zanktwo/My%20mkii/DSC00042.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/zanktwo/Sport%20Max%20002%2015x8/DSC00031.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/zanktwo/Sport%20Max%20002%2015x8/DSC00015.jpg

P-type
Sport Max 002
15x8 @ 0mm offset
225-50-15
These are not hubcentric rims, you must get the hubcentric rings for them when you order some.

TRD 83 SupraDrifter
03-03-2007, 12:54 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/SpeedyTRDSupra/alexs.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/SpeedyTRDSupra/DSCN0010-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/SpeedyTRDSupra/MK2Rewinds3-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/SpeedyTRDSupra/DSCN0012-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/SpeedyTRDSupra/DSCN0014-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/SpeedyTRDSupra/IMG_0202-1.jpg

P-Type
15x7 @ 0mm offset
Konig Rewinds
225/50/15s
Estimated cost of rims $500+ depending who you get them from.

williamb82
03-03-2007, 01:09 AM
enkie 92's, 16x7, 0 offset. they are actually 2 peice wheels, not one peice as previously mentioned. they are 225/50/16 front and 245/50/16 rear.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/williamb82/fronttuck2.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/williamb82/843.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/williamb82/rims1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/williamb82/rims2.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/williamb82/149b.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/williamb82/willspics025.jpg

and this pic it had 245/45/16's in the rear.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/williamb82/ef21.jpg

also, its a tight fit, but they do clear the bbk. not much clearance between the caliper and the back of the rim center though. lol

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/williamb82/bbkenkie.jpg

Supra GTR
03-03-2007, 04:58 PM
Racing Hart C2 (3-piece wheel)
17x8 +10mm with 245/40R17 Yokohama AVS Sports (2.5" lip)
17x9 +10mm with 255/40R17 Yokohama AVS Sports (3.5" lip)

Retail: $3600 w/out tires.

Racing Hart C2's are 3-piece wheels, built with a smooth outer barrel reverse style lip. It is unlike most reverse styles. The outer barrel has a slight angle extending to a sharp angled lip instead of extending straight out to a radiused lip. The center is painted silver with machined face similar to the OEM mk2 wheels. A clear coat is the final finish to protect both the machined surface as well as the painted surface. The inner barrel is painted flat silver. The outer barrel is polished to a high polish. Fasteners are not mere decoration but actually hold the wheel assembly together. The cap that covers the lug nuts are designed to imitate center-lock wheels. Factory supplied hub-rings, open ended lug nuts, and center cap removal tool were included.

When I ordered the set, it was not a stocking item. It had to be custom built from Japan. Delivery was 8 months.

I was told that there are a handful of mk2s with C2's in addition to mine, several in California. I've seen a 240Z as well as a B10 in a magazine with these.

No spacers/ no adapters. No rubbing. Would you expect anything less from me?

Status: Discontinued.

Due to rarity (for fitment) and build quality, expect to see high prices on these in the used market.

Car has Eibach Pro-Kit springs, Tokico shocks, and Addco swaybars.

http://www.supratech.org/members/jamesr/graphics/jamesold.jpg

http://www.supratech.org/members/jamesr/graphics/JamesFront34.jpg

http://www.supratech.org/members/jamesr/graphics/IMG_mk2JRR01.jpg

http://www.supratech.org/members/jamesr/graphics/IMG_mk2JR03.jpg

Malloy
03-03-2007, 08:29 PM
P-type
Simmons
17x8 front 10mm 3" lip
17x9 rear 0mm 4" lip
~$500 each

Perfect fit, no spacers etc. Readily available.

http://www.celicasupra.com/images/lip1.jpg
http://www.celicasupra.com/images/river1.jpg
http://www.celicasupra.com/images/etown2.JPG

TRD 83 SupraDrifter
03-04-2007, 04:44 AM
Make the pics visible.

TRD 83 SupraDrifter
03-04-2007, 05:02 AM
Never mind my comp was messing up.

1983supra
03-04-2007, 09:25 AM
P Type

Simmons FR

17 x 8 front 16mm
17 x 9 rear 0mm

Not sure how much in the US

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6267/img2005cropxs9.jpg

Carlos Brown
03-04-2007, 10:33 PM
I have the same rims as 1983Supra, only I stretched it out a little more.
18" x 8.5" x +15mm front

18" x 9.5" x 0mm rear
The rims are hub-centric (60.06mm centerbore) and do not require spacers. The center pieces were built to my specifications for a 25mm caliper clearance.

Rims cost $620 each for fronts and $640 each for rears. Delivery time was 6-weeks.

Regards,

Carlos

P Type

Simmons FR

17 x 8 front 16mm
17 x 9 rear 0mm

Not sure how much in the US

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6267/img2005cropxs9.jpg

Malloy
03-04-2007, 10:52 PM
Carlos, post pics!

Carlos Brown
03-05-2007, 10:49 AM
Malloy,

Unfortunately the pictures will have to wait until spring. Right now the car is sitting on jack stands waiting to have the suspension reinstalled.

I will make sure to post plenty of pics once it is on the ground though... Hopefully soon!

Regards,

Carlos

Malloy
03-05-2007, 11:33 AM
I cant wait to see the completed pics. :)

83restomod
03-05-2007, 11:57 AM
5zigen Fno1r-c
16x7
BF's 205-55-r16 all around
1" wheel adapters 4x114.3-4x100
+33 off set
good tight fitment in front. will clear almost any brake kit you can dream up
i do not like the fitment in the rear they are too tucked in do to the offset and a wheel guy i am no longer using.

about $800 for set
about $500 for tires

they are for sale for local pick up.
less then 1000 miles on them
car has never seen rain so they are super clean!!!!!

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p135/83restomod/rimsandtires.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p135/83restomod/suoraside.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p135/83restomod/suprarightangle.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p135/83restomod/suprarearangle.jpg

CJSREDPRA
03-05-2007, 03:44 PM
Malloy also forgot to mention that his Simmons (that Jehan now owns) are the OM models.

EVERYONE!!! One thing that Aaron forgot to mention in his 1st posting (that can be helpful to some of us) is that we should mention if our wheel centerbores are hubcentric or not (I've edited my original posting).

mkiirp
03-14-2007, 04:58 PM
nice rims jeje

Suprasman01
03-16-2007, 02:31 AM
P-Type
17x8 F 245/45-17
17x9 R 255/45-17

Roh Snypers - Unavailable - Past Group buy around $700.00 for the staggered set.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o139/suprasman01/PICcd11018.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o139/suprasman01/PICcd1939.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o139/suprasman01/PICcd11100.jpg

JoelD

Dangerous Ken
03-16-2007, 11:06 AM
P-Type
17x8 F 245/45-17
17x9 R 255/45-17


Offsets?

Ken

SilverMk2
03-16-2007, 11:34 AM
ROHs were +17 all around

To add my new wheels

Volk/Rays Group 3 Evolutions
3 piece forged
72mm hub bore (used hub rings)
front 17x8 +13 245/40/17
rear 17x9 +20 275/40/17
no rubbing so far. Very tight fitment in the rear on the inside. You may have problems if you have lots of rear camber (I have eccentrics installed)

The wheels are a discountinued mid '90s design. I bought these off Rinkya. Total cost for wheels, shipping, and refinishing ~$1600. They require using a hard to locate valve stem as well.

I need to get a better pic, but this pic shows the wheels detail better

http://www.pbase.com/silvermk2/image/74868423/large.jpg

CJSREDPRA
03-16-2007, 05:22 PM
Nice updates everyone!!!

Still would like to see more write-ups on the other Centerlines (particularly the Ventura's & the Sahara's).

Rosso
03-29-2007, 12:51 PM
Here's my wheels.
With L-type(XX) fenders.

Rear: SSR Mark-III
15inch/7.5J/off-6 with 8mm spacer.
205-60 tire.
Front: SSR-Mark-III
15inch/7.5J/off+19 with 10mm spacer (3mm spacer + brake disc thickness, I'm using X81 Cressida brake over the hub.).
205-60 tire.

Both front and rear inner side of fender panels had to shave/bend to fit tire without rubbing.
And it have negitive rear and front camber, so if it don't have camber I'm sure tire will rub the fender.

Now I want some 16inch wheel which looks like Gr.A racing Supra MkII.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l198/rossometeorite/MyXX.jpg

Solo1Supra
03-29-2007, 03:54 PM
Sharp car. More pics please....

Rosso
03-29-2007, 06:38 PM
Thanks:)

Here is some.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l198/rossometeorite/MyXX02.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l198/rossometeorite/MyXX04.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l198/rossometeorite/myXX.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l198/rossometeorite/myXX2.jpg

This one is before I install cressida lip.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l198/rossometeorite/MyXX03.jpg

*edit add some pictures.

Junkie
03-29-2007, 06:44 PM
Rosso,that car is sweet,thanks for sharing.

Rosso
03-29-2007, 06:47 PM
Thank you:)
My XX looks OK in picture but it have lot of rust....

turbogoo1
03-29-2007, 08:56 PM
Awesome car....:hail:

lbto`
03-30-2007, 12:26 AM
Thanks:)

Here is some.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l198/rossometeorite/MyXX02.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l198/rossometeorite/MyXX04.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l198/rossometeorite/myXX.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l198/rossometeorite/myXX2.jpg

This one is before I install cressida lip.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l198/rossometeorite/MyXX03.jpg

*edit add some pictures.
hot car

here is mine panasport fs16 16x7 0-offset
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/drift1n6/DSCN0138.jpg

sideways82
03-30-2007, 02:26 AM
Konig Rewinds 16x7 0-offset $600 for a set.
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6268/rewindangleqe6.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4601/konigsidevb5.jpg

TRD 83 SupraDrifter
05-02-2007, 01:47 PM
Just got my 16x7 0- offset But I don't know about no $600 for them? Its a bit much. Hehe

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/SpeedyTRDSupra/000_3449.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/SpeedyTRDSupra/000_3450.jpg

Suprafanatic
07-24-2007, 11:18 AM
I just rec'd my set of Sportmax Racing 002 in 16x8 all round, and they are a damned fine looking rim! Should fit a 245/45/16 in Falken GR Beta FK451 which are on sale at Discount Tire right now for only $99.
More pics to follow when I get them mounted

http://motorsportsr.com/2006WheelsPicutures/002GM8H1580.jpg
http://motorsportsr.com/2006WheelsPicutures/002GM8H15801.jpg
http://motorsportsr.com/2006WheelsPicutures/002GM8H15802.jpg

zank
07-24-2007, 10:16 PM
I just rec'd my set of Sportmax Racing 002 in 16x8 all round, and they are a damned fine looking rim! Should fit a 245/45/16 in Falken GR Beta FK451 which are on sale at Discount Tire right now for only $99.
More pics to follow when I get them mounted

http://motorsportsr.com/2006WheelsPicutures/002GM8H1580.jpg
http://motorsportsr.com/2006WheelsPicutures/002GM8H15801.jpg
http://motorsportsr.com/2006WheelsPicutures/002GM8H15802.jpg

BOOO!!!!!!!! I want to see pics of the wheels on the car already :faint:

zack_odom
07-25-2007, 02:38 AM
Ummmmm....dude dont you know what they look like already? :iocrunks2: :zzzzz:

CJSREDPRA
07-25-2007, 06:15 AM
All kidding aside, when you look at them mounted on the car & do a comparison, the cars "looks" can change between a 15" wheel & a 16" wheel, even though it's the same style. Thus the reason why Zank (and myself) wants to see mounted pics of how the 16's look on the car.

zank
07-26-2007, 12:03 AM
All kidding aside, when you look at them mounted on the car & do a comparison, the cars "looks" can change between a 15" wheel & a 16" wheel, even though it's the same style. Thus the reason why Zank (and myself) wants to see mounted pics of how the 16's look on the car.

Muppet boy speaks the truth

sooopradupa
08-16-2007, 02:28 AM
Is there a site that has rims for the MKII? I Love the Black Mesh with the "Lip'age Chris!!!!!!!!!!!

sooopradupa
08-16-2007, 02:30 AM
Yours too Zank!!!

CJSREDPRA
08-16-2007, 02:45 AM
Is there a site that has rims for the MKII? I Love the Black Mesh with the "Lip'age Chris!!!!!!!!!!!

The thread you're in now, is basically it!!!! In other words..... All of these different manufactures who are willing to work with our bolt patterns & the offsets needed for the P-Type body. Unless the posting lists that this certain wheel, or wheel model is discontinued, these are your options.

Yours too Zank!!!

Also please get familiar with the Edit button on the lower right.... Thanks.

SupraLee
10-17-2007, 10:42 PM
Here's what i run on my 84P.
Circle Racing Wheels
16x8 0 offset
Bought them from Don L on these forums. I'm currently running 225/50R16 BFG g-Force Sports. I can fit 245 but i bought the BFGs for a good price.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/shirolee/DSC_0027.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/shirolee/STA70339.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/shirolee/STA70305.jpg

jhodder
11-24-2007, 01:21 AM
sorry for the stupid question...but what are hubcentric rings ?

Suprafanatic
11-24-2007, 09:50 AM
They are collars that fit on the center hub boss on top of the rotor (which also locates the rotor to center) and fits snug into the center bore of the rim. The hub has a 50.2mm diameter and your rim might be 65-78mm. It ensures the rim is sitting directly at the center of rotation so there is no vibration.

Read this:
http://www.prestigewheel.com/Catalog/HubRings66_67.pdf

AE25
11-28-2007, 04:03 AM
85P
Performance Challengers (australian made)
15x8 225-50-15
non hubcentric
(will see what offset is when they come off next)

http://www.toycrazy.net/mark/pics/ma61newmags-002.jpg

deaf_rattle
11-28-2007, 04:27 AM
Hey Mark,

they look pretty good, i would be keen on offset and some pics from infront/behind the car to see how far they stick out.
Trying to work out what will work for my l type.
Cheers

rocketrider0069
11-29-2007, 01:45 PM
i wish somone would do a remake of the stock ptype rims but in 16" or 17"

MadCas86
11-30-2007, 07:29 AM
i wish somone would do a remake of the stock ptype rims but in 16" or 17"

Starion Widebody rear wheels do a fairly good job of that. Shame they only come in 5 stud.

83CelWA
11-30-2007, 01:24 PM
I really like those performance challenger rims. I have never seen something like those over here, and too bad that shipping would kill if I got someone to find me a set out of the states.

Suprafanatic
12-08-2007, 08:42 PM
BOOO!!!!!!!! I want to see pics of the wheels on the car already :faint:

Check the pics out here:
http://forums.celicasupra.com/showthread.php?t=34929

There are a few pics in the first posting of that thread.

rsdeo
12-19-2007, 06:22 PM
Rota RB and RB-R
http://c2auto.com/images/7-15-06_003.jpg

RB 1570 4 4X114.3
RB 1570 12 4X114.3
RB 1570 25 4X114.3
RB 1580 4 4X114.3
RB 1580 12 4X114.3

RB 1670 4 4X114.3
RB 1670 20 4X114.3
RB 1670 22 4X114.3
RB 1680 4 4X114.3
RB-R 1680 4 4X114.3
RB-R 1680 10 4X114.3

RB 1775 20 4X114.3
RB-R 1785 4 4X114.3

Sport Max 501
http://www.nlmotoring.com/images/sl/501_01.jpg

1680 15 4X114.3

Sport Max 002
http://www.c2auto.com/images/002_silver_large_1_.jpg

1680 0 4X114.3

Drag Wheels DR-20
http://www.elementmotorsports.com/images/forum/dr20_10mm.jpg

1570 0 4X114.3
1570 10 4X114.3

williamb82
12-19-2007, 06:43 PM
i got a quote of ~$770 for the rb-r's in 17x8.5 +4 rear and 16x8 +10 front. not bad really and included shipping. was a seller on ebay.

rsdeo
12-23-2007, 11:14 AM
i got a quote of ~$770 for the rb-r's in 17x8.5 +4 rear and 16x8 +10 front. not bad really and included shipping. was a seller on ebay.

Why would you go 16" in the front? Understeer. 17x7.5 +20 should fit fine on our cars. Even the Ltype. I heard 17x9 +0 are in the works. Then you can use 17x8.5 +4 on the front.

williamb82
12-24-2007, 10:12 AM
if thats true i would use the 17x8.5 +4 up front, assuming it clears my coilovers. gonna do the coilovers on my 86 mk2 same way i did them on my 84.

Suprafanatic
01-15-2008, 01:08 AM
So finally I got around to posting them here. Thanks to Greg G for the awesome shots! These are the Sportmax 002 in 16"x8" 0-offset all round. I used a 16mm spacer on the rear (although I will be trimming 1-2mm off in the spring as it makes contact with the flare) along with new longer studs. They are actually quite easy to replace, although because I couldn't find a metric thread stud with the correct knurl diameter, I now have metric front lugs and imperial rear lugs. Just another reason to not let anyone else work on my car - putting the wrong lugs on either end of the car would be.... bad. The fronts were a direct bolt on, using hubcentric rings to keep the wheel dead centered on the hub. I think the zero offset on the front is actually a bit much now that I can see a head on view of the car - they appear to not be attached to the car as the entire flare is utilized. Ideally, I'd prefer a +10 offset on the front but beggars can't be choosey, right?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/greg84mk2/Forums/CelicaSupra/Damon%2011-2007/DSC_0083.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/greg84mk2/Forums/CelicaSupra/Damon%2011-2007/DSC_0084.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/greg84mk2/Forums/CelicaSupra/Damon%2011-2007/DSC_0290.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/greg84mk2/Forums/CelicaSupra/Damon%2011-2007/DSC_0398.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/greg84mk2/Forums/CelicaSupra/Damon%2011-2007/DSC_0368.jpg

Johnny Quest
01-15-2008, 05:40 AM
that maroon is such a nice color!! and are those the sportmax in the 15's or 16's?

TRD 83 SupraDrifter
01-27-2008, 01:09 AM
AXIS BANZAI 15x8 Offset 0 / 4x114.3 with 3 inch lip. ($180.00 each)
(....yes, as you can see, these are "Hayashi" Replicas)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/Haru99/AxisBANZAI.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/Haru99/AxisBANZAI2.jpg

PS: This line up comes also in 17x8 and 17x9
http://buywheelstoday.com/products/Banzai+%28Black%2FMachined%29.bwt[/

xiong80s
01-27-2008, 01:42 AM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/Haru99/AxisBANZAI2.jpg

So that's their new wheels the Axis rep was talking about. I wish these replica wheels are made in 16s. There's also a SSR MKIII replica too that is out. Sportmax/XXR is coming out with their 513 wheels; Panasport replicas.

TRD 83 SupraDrifter
01-27-2008, 04:19 PM
Here is the latest family member from KONIG. And yes there SSR MKIII copies.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/Haru99/KONIGB_BOMB01.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/Haru99/KONIGB_BOMB02.jpg

KONIG B_BOMB 4x114.3 / 15x7.5 / offset 0

Let me know if anyone wants these. I can get them for a good price.

Chrisfrom1986
01-27-2008, 05:13 PM
Let me know if you can get those in a 15x8 or 16x8 and the price.

TRD 83 SupraDrifter
01-27-2008, 05:27 PM
Which ones? The MKIII Look a likes? Whatever the size I listed is what they got. Thats it. Not even Konig makes them in anything bigger than that.

xiong80s
01-27-2008, 07:43 PM
KONIG B_BOMB I can get them for a good price.

What's the price? Wanna know if it's better than the price someone else quoted me.

Chrisfrom1986
01-27-2008, 10:54 PM
Well either way, if they become available Im sure you will post them, so please do.

TRD 83 SupraDrifter
01-27-2008, 10:57 PM
You know it man. I want 16s for mine.

white_mk_2
01-27-2008, 11:26 PM
are those the sportmax in the 15's or 16's?

16x8, 0 offset.

MattiK
02-20-2008, 05:02 PM
Not on the car yet... but should fit nicely. Not the most beautiful type of wheel (still better than most modern wheels), but practical for 225/45R17 or 245/40R17 tires which have plenty of choices in the most grippy compounds. I will probably go for Bridgestone RE050A.

Wheel type is Compomotive MO1780, 17"x8", ET11 as cast on the outer surface... that's as low ET as the range goes. At the current exchange rate, about $400 per wheel (including 22% VAT).

http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/mattik72/wheel1.JPG

jhodder
03-04-2008, 11:38 PM
Does anybody know if Banzai (Gun Metal/Machined) Axis 17x8 +15 offset with 5-114.3 would fit on a 85 P Type Supra ?
I found the rims on the internet at BWT, but want to make sure their gonna fit.. From what I've been reading in this forum, the 17x8 +15 offset with 4 x 114.3's should fit with no spacers, ect......am I wrong?

Supra GTR
03-05-2008, 12:30 AM
Does anybody know if Banzai (Gun Metal/Machined) Axis 17x8 +15 offset with 5-114.3 would fit on a 85 P Type Supra ?
I found the rims on the internet at BWT, but want to make sure their gonna fit.. From what I've been reading in this forum, the 17x8 +15 offset with 4 x 114.3's should fit with no spacers, ect......am I wrong?

Simple answer: No.

Complex answer: Please read this thread thoroughly. You will find that the most common link is the 4-114.3 bolt pattern. So unless you have 5-114.3 bolt pattern it will not fit.

Chrisfrom1986
03-05-2008, 12:36 AM
They come in 4x114.3 in 17x8 +15. I was going to post the same answer until I actually went and looked at the wheel specs myself. Im curious to see what the 17s look like.

jhodder
03-05-2008, 10:11 AM
Sorry, Thats what I ment 4 x 114.3 17x8 +15 offset.


http://www.buywheelstoday.com/products/Banzai+%28Gun+Metal%2FMachined%29.bwt

jhodder
03-05-2008, 10:15 AM
Does anybody know if the 17 x 8 4x114.3 with the +15 offsets will fit an 85 p-type?



AXIS BANZAI 15x8 Offset 0 / 4x114.3 with 3 inch lip. ($180.00 each)
(....yes, as you can see, these are "Hayashi" Replicas)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/Haru99/AxisBANZAI.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/Haru99/AxisBANZAI2.jpg

PS: This line up comes also in 17x8 and 17x9
http://buywheelstoday.com/products/Banzai+%28Black%2FMachined%29.bwt[/

SilverMk2
03-05-2008, 11:41 AM
Yes they should fit fine. They'll also look "tucked" in in the back. I run 17x8 +13s in the front right now and I have the photo on page 3.

Chrisfrom1986
03-05-2008, 01:06 PM
They would look much better on an L type imo. Maybe some spacers if you could get some that small to bring them to 0 offset.

Supra GTR
03-05-2008, 04:17 PM
17x8 4-114.3 +15 will be fine for the p-type.

(The ROH Snypers were 17x8 +17 up front.. some even purchased the 17x8 all the way around.)

BillyM
03-05-2008, 05:03 PM
I don't understand this fascination with 0-offset...

+15mm is almost perfect for a 17x8, for a P-type front in my very well educated opinion.

Do you think there's anyone runing a 245/45-17 up there with a 0mm offset? Hell no, would rub hard...

...and they offer 17x9 +20mm as well, which might be real close to perfect (7mm spacer?)

I look forward to seeing these wheels on someone's car, I bet they'll look GREAT!

--billyM

lacrssgus14
03-05-2008, 05:42 PM
Here is a 17x8 +12 running a 225/40 tire in the front:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i205/lacrssgus14/85%20Supra/img_00045.jpg

Here is the same wheel on the back
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i205/lacrssgus14/85%20Supra/img_00055.jpg

I plan to run a 5mm spacer in the rear to squeeze 275 tires on, the front is perfect IMO.

jhodder
03-06-2008, 01:38 AM
Thanks for the input...Looks like I will be ordering a set of the 17's later this week. Once they come in, i'll be sure to post some picks. Thanks.

jhodder
03-09-2008, 12:44 PM
I was thinking of going with the 17 x 8 +15 for the fronts and 17 x 9 +20 for the rears......does anyone have an opinion on this?

Dangerous Ken
03-09-2008, 02:34 PM
I was thinking of going with the 17 x 8 +15 for the fronts and 17 x 9 +20 for the rears......does anyone have an opinion on this?
17 x 9 +20 with a hubcentric 20 mm adapter in the rear

Ken

Suprasman01
03-09-2008, 03:38 PM
Couple reference shots.

17x8 ROH's +17 as Supra GTR stated. (Both front and rear are the 8")
running 245/40 front and 255/40 rear
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o139/suprasman01/Whipping%20the%20Tail%20of%20the%20Dragon/74140123.jpg

17x8 ROH front and 17x9 ROH rear, (Billy had to throw your car up to show my old 9", :) )
not sure on tire sizes on Billy's
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o139/suprasman01/Whipping%20the%20Tail%20of%20the%20Dragon/74140120.jpg


Similar angles should give comparison both the 8" and 9" ROH's were +17.
I think the +15 would be just fine, remember 2mm is under a tenth of an inch.

Hope this helps.

JoelD

jhodder
03-09-2008, 10:10 PM
Thanks JoelD. The pics really help. First thing 2morrow, I'm gonna order the 17x8's for the front and the 17x9's for the rear. Once they come in, I'll make sure to post some pics.

Thanks again.
JeffH

Chrisfrom1986
03-09-2008, 11:13 PM
Why do people run different size tires on the same size rims... seriously that makes no sense.

83restomod
03-09-2008, 11:21 PM
Why do people run different size tires on the same size rims... seriously that makes no sense.

traction and looks. gives the car a stagered look or a more aggressive stance. makes pleany of sence especially on a RWD car.

Chrisfrom1986
03-09-2008, 11:24 PM
Staggered look on same size rims... more traction in the rear when the same size tire fits in the front... ok... Ill just stop while Im ahead and leave.

Suprasman01
03-11-2008, 12:43 AM
Reasons? Who needs reasons, we have Celica Supras!

No really the 255/40-17 is the tire size that closest if not perfectly matches the
overall height of the factory tires, therefore not throwing a wrench in the speedometer calibration. The reason not to put the 255's on the front is generally clearance issues, a few people have rubbed with the 245's on. I am sure that with the proper exact offset a 255 would probably go on the front and not rub, but chances are with fenderliners in it would "polish" them. Main reason I went from the 17x9" to the 17x8" was I have one that got a non-repairable tumor in it when a semi exploded. So I sold the good 9" to BillyM and bought the rest of the group buy stock up;) . Reason for getting 2 new 255's as opposed to 245's, the car breaks the rears loose @ 60 in 3rd when the boost comes on :)
it really surprised and scared me first time I really got in it and I didn't want to make it worse.

Hopefully that helps to make a little more sense out of it. I know it'd be nice to pull and rotate, but I do not put that many miles on the car, and do have the rear crossmember camber modded, so shouldn't have the edge wear issues experienced usually.

JoelD

williamb82
03-11-2008, 01:59 PM
Staggered look on same size rims... more traction in the rear when the same size tire fits in the front... ok... Ill just stop while Im ahead and leave.

i run 225/50/16 on the front 16x7 enkies on my 84 and 245/50/16 nitto drag radials on the rear 16x7 enkies. i did this for traction obviously as i went with drag radials, but alos for the looks. go look at pics i posted of my 84 and youll see. its on the 1st or 2nd page of this thread i beleive.

Chrisfrom1986
03-11-2008, 03:34 PM
My 225/50 V710's fit my 15x8.5's like a square. Thats the look I like. No stretch, no bulge.

7mgt-66e
03-11-2008, 04:45 PM
chrisfrom1986, I assumed you bought the centerline wheels from nicoclub or zilvia. Post some pics of it on your car, I want to see how it looks.

Chrisfrom1986
03-12-2008, 02:41 AM
I did, but I dont remember where. Eh...

http://a405.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/9/l_17254ad97b05bf75aab351c696cb6aa4.jpg
http://a727.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/l_cba5fce967117bc91c9ea18849930bae.jpg

valzareh
03-12-2008, 01:54 PM
i have a set of 16" White Motegi Racing MR7 wheels that i picked up and found out that they will fit the supra .. Im not putting them on . But you guys can see what the wheels look like .http://www.spinnerwheels.com.au/6d3d8d70.gif i have a set in white.

83restomod
03-12-2008, 03:55 PM
they may be the correct bolt patern but the offset looks way off. you would need to run spacers to get them to sit properly.

amscamryse
03-16-2008, 10:50 AM
Can someone identify these wheels please, I know they have been already but I dont remember.

http://www.ma70.com/bryan/atwatersuprasmallfile.jpg

SilverMk2
03-16-2008, 11:32 AM
Circle Racing Wheels

rsdeo
03-23-2008, 10:08 AM
Axis now lists the Banzai wheels in 17x8 and 17x9 on their site in 4x114.3.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/Haru99/AxisBANZAI.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/Haru99/AxisBANZAI2.jpg

jefe_not
03-23-2008, 11:20 AM
Still with the 15 mm offset... Think they'll figure out a version with 0 offset?

BillyM
03-23-2008, 04:27 PM
+15mm is close to the perfect offset for 8" front and 9" rear wheels, far better than 0mm...

I still don't understand the fascination with 0mm offset on those 8" wide wheels... You're not going to be able to fit 245's on the front those 0mm offset wheels...

Look up at post 81, the second picture is my car with 17x8+17 /w 245/45, 17x9+17 /w 275/40 As far as I know, that's the largest tire fitted to a mk2... That would have rubbed like mad, front and rear, with 0mm offset, no doubt.

--billyM

jefe_not
03-23-2008, 07:43 PM
OK, thanks, Billy. I've got a couple of 16x8 inch Rikens and they fit great on the car with the 0 offset but I'm only running the 225 tires. I've got spacers on the 16x7 20 mm to get them to fill out the rear wells. The 20 mm rub on the struts when installed on the front of the car with the 225's so I'll admit that I'm finding this a little confusing... You're saying that they'll rub the fenders with the larger tires and the 0 offset?

BillyM
03-23-2008, 11:09 PM
I'd verify the offset on those "20mm" 16x7's if I were you. They should definitely not be contacting the strut at 20mm...

--billyM

jefe_not
03-23-2008, 11:19 PM
They work with 205's or with the 5 mm spacer with the 225's. Oh well, the gold Rikens are in the garage anyway since I scored another set of black Rikens a little while ago.

TRD 83 SupraDrifter
03-25-2008, 10:41 AM
I did, but I don't remember where. Eh...

http://a405.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/9/l_17254ad97b05bf75aab351c696cb6aa4.jpg
http://a727.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/l_cba5fce967117bc91c9ea18849930bae.jpg

Don't you rub with those man? Damn the rear looks like it would really bad!

Chrisfrom1986
03-27-2008, 01:57 PM
The front might not rub, not really sure. The rear does not fit period. Any compression of the suspension and the wheel is into the quarter panel. I just put them on to see how they look and fit.

7mgt-66e
03-31-2008, 05:57 PM
Finally got my tires mounted onto my SSR. I'll be rolling on these just for the celica meet this Sat. then it's going into storage til the Supra is here.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb262/7mgt-66e/DSC02194.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb262/7mgt-66e/celica008.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb262/7mgt-66e/celica006.jpg
Rears 15x9 -27
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb262/7mgt-66e/celica003.jpg
Fronts 15x8.5 -21
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb262/7mgt-66e/celica004.jpg
Here's the tire stretch on the fronts 195/50
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb262/7mgt-66e/celica009.jpg
and the rears 195/50
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb262/7mgt-66e/celica010.jpg

Now it just needs to be lowered.

I say it fits fine. So there, even our Supras can handle extreme offsets.

jefe_not
03-31-2008, 06:36 PM
The wheels are really nice but I think you need wider tires...

TRD 83 SupraDrifter
03-31-2008, 06:51 PM
No thats the way he wants them I bet. Its called stretched tires. I know it may look wrong to you but thats sick as fuck!!! VERY NICE MAN!!!

7mgt-66e
03-31-2008, 06:59 PM
Went with these so the stretch will tuck the tire treads in under the flares instead of it hitting. Once lowered, will determine if there is room for wider tires. Plus I'll be getting some cheaper wheels for daily, hard, rough driving. Maybe some sportmax 16x8 513. Then for intense racing (the Supra), will be just buying slicky, race tires for the stock 14s. Hope they still make tires in that diameter. If not, Circle Racing wheels seems pretty cheap.

7mgt-66e
03-31-2008, 07:04 PM
No thats the way he wants them I bet. Its called stretched tires. I know it may look wrong to you but thats sick as fuck!!! VERY NICE MAN!!!

That's right, I wanted it this way, it's the new thing. Notice Jefe_not is from WI. I'm originally from MN and noticed things always starts off somewhere else (mostly west coast) and spreads to the Midwest. Pretty soon, you'll see it all over in the Midwest. But it'll be hard to find someone who can do the stretch style. I watched them do it. I was surprised.

And thanks for the compliment TRD_83....

AChan
03-31-2008, 07:11 PM
The wheels are really nice but I think you need wider tires...

yeah...That's a style now a days.

TRD 83 SupraDrifter
03-31-2008, 07:14 PM
One thing I think you do need is some better lug nuts. No insalt inteded.

7mgt-66e
03-31-2008, 07:25 PM
One thing I think you do need is some better lug nuts. No insalt inteded.

Were you able to see them? I only had two on each wheel. I picked them up at the local auto parts just so I can take pics. I don't even have enough for all four wheels. Will stop by Super Auto Bacs on Weds to check some out since I have to go there to pick up my stereo install kit anyways.

walkerhiboost
03-31-2008, 09:08 PM
It's not really a new thing...maybe a new thing here in the States...

The wheels are totally sick....I just don't care for the "stretched" look. It kinda defeats the purpose of a wide wheel...

Ask your insurance company if they will still cover you if you have a blowout because of a unapproved tire for the rim size.

BTW: Location doesn't mean crap...... tree huggin Cali's

Supra GTR
03-31-2008, 09:30 PM
Not new in the states either. Minitruckers, sports compact car owners, and lowriders were doing this in the mid 90s.

It's a style not suited to my personal tastes.

But, to each his own.

7mgt-66e
03-31-2008, 11:15 PM
BTW: Location doesn't mean crap...... tree huggin Cali's

If location doesn't mean crap, why was that import tuning first started on west coast, also the JDM styling, drifting, and I remember correctly, break dancing (house, whatever they call it). Granted, some started out of the country. I've been to Virginia recently and have notice that the JDM is starting to become bigger there. I grew up in Minnesota, part of the Midwest, and have notice this trend. Been to Chicago (back when import drag started), Midwest's main stream city, and still notice the same. Hmm... wonder if it's because of location, I've been there. Experienced it. Now I live in Cali and can cruise in my rides all year long. I'll being visiting MN soon, I'll see how the trend is doing there.

As being a new thing, I meant for the import tuner scene. I notice lowriders doing the stretch back then but they were running on fatter sides with white walls. Also only saw them on cali cars, I had low profiles on my roadsters when I was in MN just like everyone else.

By the way, what does tree hugger mean? First time I heard that was 5 months ago in Virginia. Doesn't hurt my feelings if I don't know.

As for the insurance, do you tell them (if you did) that you modified your cars? Swap NA to turbo. Bet you more than 3/4 don't. I learn that your insurance is your worse enemy when you get into a serious accident, not no fender bender. i hate insurance adjusters/claimers.

Didn't mean to burst anyone's bubble, just wanted to state my point of view.

Chrisfrom1986
04-01-2008, 02:43 AM
No thats the way he wants them I bet. Its called stretched tires. I know it may look wrong to you but thats sick as fuck!!! VERY NICE MAN!!!

That style is stupider than anything Ive ever seen. Defeats the purpose of having a wider wheel. Doing it for make wider wheel fit has its use, but not when you are fitting x10s and only have room for x8 . I hope I wont have to stretch too much to get the x8.5-20's to fit. A 195 would be stupid. Ill pull the fenders if I have to to make the rubber fit.

TRD 83 SupraDrifter
04-01-2008, 11:15 AM
Might be stupid but its what some like including my self. I will be doing something like that as well once I get the money for new wheels and tires.

sasbomb
04-01-2008, 12:14 PM
I did, but I dont remember where. Eh...

http://a405.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/9/l_17254ad97b05bf75aab351c696cb6aa4.jpg
http://a727.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/l_cba5fce967117bc91c9ea18849930bae.jpg

those are centerlines dont remember the model name but those have a gangster offset. Roll your fenders or get some flares and your baller.

Chrisfrom1986
04-01-2008, 01:29 PM
I dont think I want to keep them on the Cressida. I dont want to pull the rear fenders and doors. They would fit a lot better on a Supra with a lot less work. They are Centerline Convo Pro. 15x8.5-20.

walkerhiboost
04-01-2008, 03:27 PM
If location doesn't mean crap, why was that import tuning first started on west coast, also the JDM styling, drifting, and I remember correctly, break dancing (house, whatever they call it). Granted, some started out of the country. I've been to Virginia recently and have notice that the JDM is starting to become bigger there. I grew up in Minnesota, part of the Midwest, and have notice this trend. Been to Chicago (back when import drag started), Midwest's main stream city, and still notice the same. Hmm... wonder if it's because of location, I've been there. Experienced it. Now I live in Cali and can cruise in my rides all year long. I'll being visiting MN soon, I'll see how the trend is doing there.

As for the insurance, do you tell them (if you did) that you modified your cars? Swap NA to turbo. Bet you more than 3/4 don't. I learn that your insurance is your worse enemy when you get into a serious accident, not no fender bender. i hate insurance adjusters/claimers.

Didn't mean to burst anyone's bubble, just wanted to state my point of view.

I agree about the insurance adjusters, especially if the two vehicles in the accident have the same insurance. Aftermarket parts saved my WRX and crinkled the front of a 3series...

I didn't know what Import Tuning was when I was wrenching on my 76 Volvo 240, 85 Tercel, or my 85 Celica GT-S, I just knew that it was what I liked and it didn't need a name....

Be glad you are lucky to live where you can enjoy your car year round....this move to Chicago from the South wasn't my choice but my employer's....

SilverMk2
04-01-2008, 07:17 PM
Uh gentlemen take the who started what first talk elsewhere... This is meant to be a semi-informative thread

kmfdmk
04-18-2008, 07:35 PM
I just found these last night:

DrifZ Venom 506 (B=black, H=hypersilver, GM=gunmetal)

These come in both 5-lug and 4-lug make sure you get the right ones.
Also these rims come in a variety of offsets, from 35, 40, & 42 make sure you get the right ones. If you're ebaying them, triple check the offsets.

Front 17x8 +35mm Offset (will fit with 20mm Spacers = +15 offset)
Rear 17x9 +35mm Offset (will fit with 20mm Spacers = +15 offset)
http://eastcoasttires.com/store/pc/catalog/Drifz_506B(300).jpg

Black
http://i24.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/cf/ag/6957_1.JPG

GunMetal
http://i4.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/cf/ag/6919_1.JPG

HyperSilver
http://i8.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/cf/ag/6989_1.JPG

Les Schwab wants about $60 more per wheel than Wheelplay.net
17x8 Les Schwab 200.81 ea / Wheelplay.net 156.00
17x9 Les Schwab 206.00 ea / Wheelplay.net 142.00

After my turbo engine swap is complete I'll be getting either the black or gunmetal ones.
Pretty much I'm looking at around $1200 to $1500 for the tires & wheels. 255 40-17's on the front and 275 40-17's on the rear.

Chrisfrom1986
04-18-2008, 07:43 PM
If your going to be spending that much on rims, buy ones that fit properly. Spacers are retarded.

KCheng
04-18-2008, 10:14 PM
If your going to be spending that much on rims, buy ones that fit properly. Spacers are retarded.

$156 a wheel is much? lol
one of my veilside andrew v cost as much as 4 of those rims

Chrisfrom1986
04-18-2008, 11:28 PM
Sorry, I was looking at the $1200 to $1500 part.

No matter, get wheels that fit without spacers.

gottakeepon
04-19-2008, 12:31 AM
Sorry, I was looking at the $1200 to $1500 part.

No matter, get wheels that fit without spacers.

I have to say that if those wheels did come in like, a +10 offset or something. I would be all over them for that price, as i think those wheels look killer.

sasbomb
04-19-2008, 08:51 PM
diamond racing wheels
gangster as fuck in pretty much anyoffset you can think of
there mad cheap and incrediably strong
15x10 up to -20 offset for $59 per wheel you cant get more gangster then that

http://www.diamondracingwheels.com/

Chrisfrom1986
04-20-2008, 01:30 AM
Linking sites that require logging in to view threads fails.

Solo1Supra
04-20-2008, 01:53 AM
http://www.diamondracingwheels.com/WheelSeries.htm

sasbomb
04-20-2008, 09:22 PM
sorry i copy and posted the wrong link LMAO

kmfdmk
04-21-2008, 01:56 AM
If your going to be spending that much on rims, buy ones that fit properly. Spacers are retarded.

I'm not sure that my math on the spacing/offset is correct. I do agree that spacers ARE retarded, however it's not my fault that for the wheels I want I refuse to pay more than I paid for my car for a set of four rims (nevermind the tires). I think it's retarded to pay $1500 for rims, unless they're magnesium 2 or 3 piece rims. However for my needs I require a rim wider than 8 inches. My car will be hopefully putting down 400tq to the wheels and from what I've read traction is going to be a large issue. I'd rather have wide tires and not be stuck with puny 8" wide rims and be limited to only 255 tires. I'm running stock 7" wide rims and I'm running 235's right now. I am looking for a rim that's both larger and wider, preferably 17" diam, and 8/9" stagger. 17" is pretty much the current sweet spot for tires and I could use the staggered setup for the style of driving i would be using the nice rims for.

Personally the style that I like I already posted, it's the BBS/Viper/Le-Mans style rim.
http://www.altaylorsportscars.com/wheels/rim.jpg
I'm inclined to use the Diamond Racing Wheels for drifting/auto-x/hillclimb rims as they're dirt cheap, however their weight is shitty (heavy) 27lbs for 15x10, thats the same as stock weight. Where as the Watanabe's (magnesium) or the Konig Rewinds (aluminum) weight is substantially lower, the Watanabe's are like 11 or 12 and the Rewinds are 13. Sure I realize the Drifz 506's are NOT light (I looked and couldn't find the weights anywhere on the net that I looked (ebay, google, official vendor website, other dealers)).

tekdeus
04-24-2008, 04:17 AM
P-type
Simmons
17x8 front 10mm 3" lip
17x9 rear 0mm 4" lip
~$500 each

Perfect fit, no spacers etc. Readily available.

http://www.celicasupra.com/images/lip1.jpg
http://www.celicasupra.com/images/river1.jpg
http://www.celicasupra.com/images/etown2.JPG

Looks to be an Australian company. Are these available in the USA or are they only special order from AUS?

sasbomb
04-24-2008, 01:53 PM
I'm not sure that my math on the spacing/offset is correct. I do agree that spacers ARE retarded, however it's not my fault that for the wheels I want I refuse to pay more than I paid for my car for a set of four rims (nevermind the tires). I think it's retarded to pay $1500 for rims, unless they're magnesium 2 or 3 piece rims. However for my needs I require a rim wider than 8 inches. My car will be hopefully putting down 400tq to the wheels and from what I've read traction is going to be a large issue. I'd rather have wide tires and not be stuck with puny 8" wide rims and be limited to only 255 tires. I'm running stock 7" wide rims and I'm running 235's right now. I am looking for a rim that's both larger and wider, preferably 17" diam, and 8/9" stagger. 17" is pretty much the current sweet spot for tires and I could use the staggered setup for the style of driving i would be using the nice rims for.

Personally the style that I like I already posted, it's the BBS/Viper/Le-Mans style rim.
http://www.altaylorsportscars.com/wheels/rim.jpg
I'm inclined to use the Diamond Racing Wheels for drifting/auto-x/hillclimb rims as they're dirt cheap, however their weight is shitty (heavy) 27lbs for 15x10, thats the same as stock weight. Where as the Watanabe's (magnesium) or the Konig Rewinds (aluminum) weight is substantially lower, the Watanabe's are like 11 or 12 and the Rewinds are 13. Sure I realize the Drifz 506's are NOT light (I looked and couldn't find the weights anywhere on the net that I looked (ebay, google, official vendor website, other dealers)).

there heavy but there really strong my friend has them on his s13 and he hit a curb hard drifting and did no damage to the wheel other then a scuff but the rim is still straight and true. I already ordered my set just waiting for them to get here

williamb82
04-25-2008, 02:54 PM
why would you only run a 255 tire on an 8in wide rim? i have 275/50/15's on some 15x7 are mesh wheels for drag use and have seen 275's on 8in wide wheels alot. also, the stock wheels dont weight 27lbs like the 15x10 circle track wheels. they qweigh 15lbs last i heard. been awhile since i had one without a tire mounted. my 16x7 enkie 92's weigh 16lbs each with no tires.

I'm not sure that my math on the spacing/offset is correct. I do agree that spacers ARE retarded, however it's not my fault that for the wheels I want I refuse to pay more than I paid for my car for a set of four rims (nevermind the tires). I think it's retarded to pay $1500 for rims, unless they're magnesium 2 or 3 piece rims. However for my needs I require a rim wider than 8 inches. My car will be hopefully putting down 400tq to the wheels and from what I've read traction is going to be a large issue. I'd rather have wide tires and not be stuck with puny 8" wide rims and be limited to only 255 tires. I'm running stock 7" wide rims and I'm running 235's right now. I am looking for a rim that's both larger and wider, preferably 17" diam, and 8/9" stagger. 17" is pretty much the current sweet spot for tires and I could use the staggered setup for the style of driving i would be using the nice rims for.

Personally the style that I like I already posted, it's the BBS/Viper/Le-Mans style rim.
http://www.altaylorsportscars.com/wheels/rim.jpg
I'm inclined to use the Diamond Racing Wheels for drifting/auto-x/hillclimb rims as they're dirt cheap, however their weight is shitty (heavy) 27lbs for 15x10, thats the same as stock weight. Where as the Watanabe's (magnesium) or the Konig Rewinds (aluminum) weight is substantially lower, the Watanabe's are like 11 or 12 and the Rewinds are 13. Sure I realize the Drifz 506's are NOT light (I looked and couldn't find the weights anywhere on the net that I looked (ebay, google, official vendor website, other dealers)).

MattiK
04-25-2008, 03:53 PM
The narrower the tire compared to wheel, the less it will deform when cornering. Thus better handling. You also have to take into account that with larger diameter wheel and same diameter tire, the difference between tire width and rim width has to be less. For example, 255/40R17 has a recommended wheel width of 9". I certainly put more weight to sharp handling vs straight line traction, so I will opt for a tire on the narrower side of the recommendation for a certain wheel -> 225/45R17 for 8" wide. The other sensible option would be 245/40R17.

I get a strange feeling that I have written something to this effect before... if so, sorry for repeating myself...

tekdeus
04-26-2008, 12:24 AM
Drifz Venom 17x9's weigh over 22lbs, according to this site: http://eastcoasttires.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idProduct=15811

How much of a performance loss would this wheel cause? It's one of the nicer looking 17" cheap wheels for the Mk2

Chrisfrom1986
04-26-2008, 01:07 AM
It's one of the nicer looking 17" cheap wheels for the Mk2

That still doesnt have the proper offset.

Chrisfrom1986
05-08-2008, 05:11 AM
Ebay has these 2 Work knockoff styles in L type offset. 15x7 +15 One piece, $90 each. Search Maxxim.

http://www.buywheelstoday.com/images_products/4220.jpg
http://www.buywheelstoday.com/images_products/4237.jpg

Greg G
05-08-2008, 09:16 AM
I know what I want now...

If anyone has a set of 16x8 Compomotives (just like Sully, Eng, and Dupler have) please drop me a line.

Ryley
05-08-2008, 11:20 AM
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v135/5/19/614823795/n614823795_158427_8483.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v126/5/19/614823795/n614823795_157504_3025.jpg

BSA German things. repainted centres. 17x7.5" +0 ET. fronts have 215/40/17 toyos and the rears have 235/40/17

only thing is they are 5 stud! look good though.

83restomod
05-08-2008, 05:49 PM
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v135/5/19/614823795/n614823795_158427_8483.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v126/5/19/614823795/n614823795_157504_3025.jpg

BSA German things. repainted centres. 17x7.5" +0 ET. fronts have 215/40/17 toyos and the rears have 235/40/17

only thing is they are 5 stud! look good though.



you spoiled 5 lugger.........:duh: thats what i need to do.

rsdeo
05-08-2008, 10:56 PM
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v135/5/19/614823795/n614823795_158427_8483.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v126/5/19/614823795/n614823795_157504_3025.jpg

BSA German things. repainted centres. 17x7.5" +0 ET. fronts have 215/40/17 toyos and the rears have 235/40/17

only thing is they are 5 stud! look good though.

Those are hot!

I just picked up some BBS RSII rims...

Natejaeg
07-11-2008, 01:17 AM
I want to keep my stock rims, but I want a wider tire than the 215's. Does anyone know where I can get tires close to the original 225/60 R14?

84ptype
07-11-2008, 01:21 AM
I want to keep my stock rims, but I want a wider tire than the 215's. Does anyone know where I can get tires close to the original 225/60 R14?

i believe cooper cobra and bf goodrich still offer 225 60 14s...
but other than that idk..they are getting harder and harder to find.

CJSREDPRA
07-11-2008, 02:31 AM
GAAAH!!!!!!!!!!

For a "Wheels that fit MKII's" STICKY, this is a OFF-TOPIC question!!!! (different tire sizes). Plus for a wider tire, you need to look around for something in a 235 or bigger.

kmfdmk
07-11-2008, 04:04 AM
Sure it's slightly OT, however not by far.

Look at TireRack.com (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/index.jsp?camefrom=&fromIndex=true&index=xx) which lists the 235 BFG Radial T/A @ $78 ea.
Tires-Easy.com has TEN of them (http://tires-easy.com/) from $62 to $82.50
TreadDepot.com lists 2 the Cobra Radial and the BFG Radial T/A @ $83 & $97 respectively.

Tires-Easy.com seems to have THE BEST selection, however if they actually deliver in a timely manner or have them in stock is yet to be determined.

Hell Tires-Easy even has two available (the same as TreadDepot) in the 245 width (which is the widest I have found tires for).

BTW On Topic...

Rota P45R's will fit on our cars...
17x7.5" Rim +12 Offset, 114.3x4, 5-spoke, 4-lug
http://www.rotawheels.com/images/products/p45f_1.jpg

And theoretically with a 245/40-18 the whole tire would be 1" taller, and you'd lose 1/2" of wheel well clearance but it'd be bad ass.

P-45R 18x9.5" 4x114.3 +15 Offset, 4 sets of these rims are on ebay for about $825 shipped. But then you're getting into somewhat more expensive tires just to start out (around $80 to $100 each just for cheap tires) but the selection is f'in HUGE, 135 tires listed @ tires-easy.com

BillyM
07-11-2008, 11:42 AM
I'd love to see a set of staggered 17x7.5+15" and 18x9.5 +15" on a mk2.

Although I'd have to divise some sort of lug cap to cover that sucker, cause it's uuuugly.

--billyM

rsdeo
07-11-2008, 07:38 PM
Look at all the new Rota RB and RB-R sizes available now.

16 x 7 4 x 114.3 +4
16 x 7 4 x 114.3 +25
16 x 7 4 x 114.3 +22
16 x 7 4 x 114.3 +20
16 x 7 4 x 114.3 +12
16 x 8 4 x 114.3 +12
16 x 8 4 x 114.3 +20
16 x 8 4 x 114.3 +4
16 x 8 4 x 114.3 +10
16 x 8 4 x 114.3 +15

17 x 7.5 4 x 114.3 +20
17 x 7.5 4 x 100 +4
17 x 7.5 4 x 114.3 +12
17 x 8.5 4 x 114.3 +20
17 x 8.5 4 x 114.3 +4
17 x 9 4 x 114.3 -13
17 x 9.5 4 x 114.3 -19

The 17 x 9 4 x 114.3 -13 would fit nice on the rear of a MK2.

Chrisfrom1986
07-11-2008, 10:39 PM
Wow, way to step up Rota. Now if only they hadnt made the 7th different copy of the same damn wheel, things would be even better.

dmlsupra
07-12-2008, 02:44 PM
I also heard that xxr wheels might have a new model that might fit our car a 15mm offset or close to that... apparently they are working on it and we will found out more by the sema show.

Supra GTR
07-12-2008, 04:59 PM
I also heard that xxr wheels might have a new model that might fit our car a 15mm offset or close to that... apparently they are working on it and we will found out more by the sema show.

Thanks for the heads up. But unfortunately that is pure speculation as a lot can happen between now SEMA and the actual production date. Trust me I've deatl with many companies that don't deliver for many months even after seeing engineering designs. And until we have wheels on a mk2 I don't think speculation belongs in this thread.

MattiK
07-17-2008, 06:40 PM
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/mattik72/ma61/Comp1.jpg
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/mattik72/ma61/Comp2.jpg
Compomotive MO1780's (17"x8"), 11 offset. Bridgestone RE050A 225/45YR17 tires. And a need for higher rear springs (coming soon...).

art
07-17-2008, 11:43 PM
I like how the car looks, I would drop it like 1 or 2 inches in the front. That's just me though.

KeithP
07-18-2008, 03:17 PM
Does anyone know who builds custom wheels? I bet they would cost a pretty penny, but I like the stock wheels and would love to have a 17" x 9" (10" if they would fit) set made for the back.

dmlsupra
07-18-2008, 04:36 PM
Does anyone know who builds custom wheels? I bet they would cost a pretty penny, but I like the stock wheels and would love to have a 17" x 9" (10" if they would fit) set made for the back.

www.zeforged.com

17x10 would fit, do a search in this section, it has been discuss before.

williamb82
07-24-2008, 01:57 PM
Look at all the new Rota RB and RB-R sizes available now.

16 x 7 4 x 114.3 +4
16 x 7 4 x 114.3 +25
16 x 7 4 x 114.3 +22
16 x 7 4 x 114.3 +20
16 x 7 4 x 114.3 +12
16 x 8 4 x 114.3 +12
16 x 8 4 x 114.3 +20
16 x 8 4 x 114.3 +4
16 x 8 4 x 114.3 +10
16 x 8 4 x 114.3 +15

17 x 7.5 4 x 114.3 +20
17 x 7.5 4 x 100 +4
17 x 7.5 4 x 114.3 +12
17 x 8.5 4 x 114.3 +20
17 x 8.5 4 x 114.3 +4
17 x 9 4 x 114.3 -13
17 x 9.5 4 x 114.3 -19

The 17 x 9 4 x 114.3 -13 would fit nice on the rear of a MK2.


thanks for this info. my next set of wheels will be the 17x7.5 +4 front and 17x9 -13 rear. been waiting till the 9in wide came out. woot.

BillyM
07-24-2008, 03:31 PM
...converting the fronts to 4x100 will?

--billyM

williamb82
07-24-2008, 03:55 PM
no. i talked to a distributor that said he can get that size in +4 in 4x4.5. if not ill get the 17x8.5 +4 and do the celica steering arms and strut tubes. hopefully the tires wont hit my coilovers.

BillyM
07-24-2008, 04:07 PM
...the 17x8.5+20mm /w 255/40 doesn't hit the strut tubes or steering arms, so +4mm should be safe.

See if he can get the 17x9 in +5mm...

--billyM

williamb82
07-24-2008, 11:18 PM
thing is, the way i did my coilovers, the threaded collar sits lower then the stock perch. i cut the stock perch off and welded a new one on to keep the full length of the threaded collar. i have less space back there then stock between the tire and strut tube. did the coilovers like 4+ years ago.

BillyM
07-25-2008, 12:02 PM
Rota RB, ~$750
Front: 17x7.5"+20mm /w ~8mm spacer
Rears: 17x8.5"+04mm

Sumitomo HTR
Front: 225/45-17
Rears: 255/40-17

If I were to do it again, I'd go with 235/45's front and 265/40's rear.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m264/williammattison/Automotive/08-07-14%20TunnelShoot/IMG_1710.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m264/williammattison/Automotive/08-07-14%20TunnelShoot/IMG_1730.jpg

--BillyM

walkerhiboost
07-25-2008, 05:32 PM
FYI: My 265s still look to small on the rear of my ROHs....

MikeD
09-03-2008, 10:51 PM
Nice updates everyone!!!

Still would like to see more write-ups on the other Centerlines (particularly the Ventura's & the Sahara's) & we STILL need pictures & someone to do a write-up on the Braid's.

Wow, no one posted about the Braid's yet over the past year? Here's some info on my Braid's (one of four folks in George's Braid group buy in '03).

Braid Future GT (3 pc wheels)

Fronts: 17" dia x 8" wide, +10mm offset, 60.1mm centerbore (hub bore),
4x114.3 bolt circle, silver centers, polished outer rims,
exposed bolts, exposed wheel lugs
Tire sizes: 235/45x17

Rears: 17" dia x 9" wide, +0mm offset, 60.1mm centerbore (hub bore),
4x114.3 bolt circle, silver centers, polished outer rims,
exposed bolts, exposed wheel lugs
Tire sizes: 265/40x17

Total cost including shipping (from Spain) was 1576 Euros. That was when Euro to Dollar was around 1.3 to 1 (I think).

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/MikeD94/Braids/IMAG0585.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/MikeD94/Braids/Saturday20.jpg

cryo guy
09-04-2008, 06:55 PM
Sweet Wheels and Supra .

SevanD
09-27-2008, 02:12 PM
Rears: 17" dia x 9" wide, +0mm offset, 60.1mm centerbore (hub bore),
4x114.3 bolt circle, silver centers, polished outer rims,
exposed bolts, exposed wheel lugs
Tire sizes: 265/40x17

how do these fit? did you have to use spacers? what about rubbing ?

Thanks

dmlsupra
09-27-2008, 05:54 PM
Rears: 17" dia x 9" wide, +0mm offset, 60.1mm centerbore (hub bore),
4x114.3 bolt circle, silver centers, polished outer rims,
exposed bolts, exposed wheel lugs
Tire sizes: 265/40x17

how do these fit? did you have to use spacers? what about rubbing ?

Thanks

you don't need spacer with that size, and I don't think they would rub...

CJSREDPRA
09-30-2008, 11:27 PM
Rears: 17" dia x 9" wide, +0mm offset, 60.1mm centerbore (hub bore),
4x114.3 bolt circle, silver centers, polished outer rims,
exposed bolts, exposed wheel lugs
Tire sizes: 265/40x17

how do these fit? did you have to use spacers? what about rubbing ?

Thanks

Uhmmmm........

When George did the GP on the Braids, he MADE SURE to order the correct specs & fitment!!!! Spacers & rubbing issues??? Am pretty sure George WOULD NOT have gone through w/ the GP had these been issues.

Check any of our past wheel GP's (heck, look for the old thread on the ROH Snypers). They all fit properly the FIRST TIME.... Had their been ANY mention of rubbing issues or the need for spacers or adapters, most everyone would have balked at being involved in a wheel GP.

P.S. Thanks MikeD for the pics & specs on the Braids. Now I can go edit a few old postings.

Supra Ev
10-19-2008, 04:45 PM
Just double checkin, I've read the thread, but I've seen some 17x9s fitting, and some needing spacers, I guess it partially depends on the width of the tire. Just wondering if you guys can confirm these would fit. I believe they will but want to insure that.

16x8 4x4.25 +15mm --- --- $129 ---
17x9 4x4.25 +18mm --- --- $140 $169

I want the 17x9s

SilverMk2
10-19-2008, 05:45 PM
They'll fit fine if you can find the right bolt pattern (4x4.5) I run +20s on mine.

Supra Ev
10-19-2008, 11:35 PM
Yeah converted, imperial to metric is 114.x Ok, sweet got my rims then.

SilverMk2
10-20-2008, 03:13 AM
If you think 4x4.25 is correct then you need to check your math again 4x4.25 = 4x108

razo-S.supra
10-20-2008, 03:29 AM
this maybe be a stupid question but what are hubasentric rings and what do they do? reffering to the supra with the sport max 002's. where did you get the rims and rings

SilverMk2
10-20-2008, 06:49 AM
They are just an adapter ring that fits over your hub and match the hub diameter of your wheel like these

http://www.1010tires.com/images/accessories/hubrings_large.jpg

the www.1010tires.com place has a good selection of them

dmlsupra
10-20-2008, 10:17 AM
it's even easier to get them true a local shop... any reputable shop that sell aftermarket wheels will have them in stock... or just get them with the wheels. you need 60.1mm to 73mm hub rings.

Supra Ev
10-20-2008, 01:50 PM
If you think 4x4.25 is correct then you need to check your math again 4x4.25 = 4x108

I didn't do the math, I just remember from a previous post that they are close. I just guessed.

84supra84
10-20-2008, 02:52 PM
I didn't do the math, I just remember from a previous post that they are close. I just guessed.

4x114.3=4x4.5 ... Probably already been said...

Chrisfrom1986
10-20-2008, 06:08 PM
I didn't do the math, I just remember from a previous post that they are close. I just guessed.

Doing things the right way and guessing would be the difference between a costly mistake.

KCheng
11-03-2008, 12:53 AM
borrowed a 18x10+13 for the rear from my other car...
i have put it on the ground already.
pics are car on jackstands.
edit:the inside is actualy real ****in close to the inside, but i could put it on the ground and i felt it and it didnt hit anything

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh263/kchengmk2/new%20suspension%20works/DSC01223.jpg
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh263/kchengmk2/new%20suspension%20works/DSC01222.jpg

deaf_rattle
11-03-2008, 01:56 AM
looking good there kcheng!
keen to see some pics when installed and sitting side on.

gottakeepon
11-03-2008, 02:13 AM
borrowed a 18x10+13 for the rear from my other car...
fits just fine in the back with 1 finger before hitting on the inside.
i have put it on the ground already.
pics are car on jackstands.

Yes, but would it rub with tires that actually fit? I think so...

KCheng
11-03-2008, 02:29 AM
if you know how to massage it in there then your good to go
i think those tires fit dont they? i filled them with air and its mounted.
whether or not tires fit the wheels...everyone has their own ideas
maybe 245 on 7inch wide rims or maybe 10.5wide with 225 width only
whatever you feel like

gottakeepon
11-03-2008, 01:47 PM
if you know how to massage it in there then your good to go
i think those tires fit dont they? i filled them with air and its mounted.
whether or not tires fit the wheels...everyone has their own ideas
maybe 245 on 7inch wide rims or maybe 10.5wide with 225 width only
whatever you feel like
I'm just not a fan of the "streched" look. I like my tires to actually fit to the lip on my wheels.

KCheng
11-03-2008, 11:55 PM
im just posting to let ppl have a reference if anyone was indeed a fan of stretched tires so they know what has been fitted and how much more wider or lower offset they can go. more information never hurts

rsdeo
11-04-2008, 10:36 PM
im just posting to let ppl have a reference if anyone was indeed a fan of stretched tires so they know what has been fitted and how much more wider or lower offset they can go. more information never hurts

10" wide rims will fit easily on the rear of a MK2 Ptype at an offset of +0. Tyre width should not exceed 275 or maybe even 285.

BillyM
11-04-2008, 11:03 PM
275 at 0 offset = rub, fyi

--billyM

kdsii
11-12-2008, 10:28 PM
BillyM,
Can I fit 275's on the rear on a 16x9 +13mm rim?

jrok
11-13-2008, 01:58 AM
Thanks for the heads up. But unfortunately that is pure speculation as a lot can happen between now SEMA and the actual production date. Trust me I've deatl with many companies that don't deliver for many months even after seeing engineering designs. And until we have wheels on a mk2 I don't think speculation belongs in this thread.

xxr makes a zero offset in 15x7 15x8 16x7 16x8 its the 513
http://www.nlmotoring.com/XXR-Wheels-513-s/434.htm

kmfdmk
11-13-2008, 03:54 AM
xxr makes a zero offset in 15x7 15x8 16x7 16x8 its the 513
http://www.nlmotoring.com/XXR-Wheels-501-s/34.htm

They also make a 16x8 +15 that's only $99 bucks per rim as well. The XXR 501

http://www.nlmotoring.com/XXR-501-Wheels-16x8-Gun-Metal-p/50168089.htm
http://www.nlmotoring.com/v/vspfiles/photos/50157089-2.jpg

Personally I think these XXR 513's below look wonky in 16x8, the spokes end up looking like a bunch of bananas... and that's about as cool as meshies. (In my book meshies are for Trans-Ams, last I checked I don't drive one).

http://www.nlmotoring.com/v/vspfiles/photos/51357089-2.jpg

And the XXR 002's look wonky the bigger you get.
Look at the 15 next to the larger 18.
http://www.nlmotoring.com/v/vspfiles/photos/00258089-2.jpg

http://www.nlmotoring.com/v/vspfiles/photos/00257082-2.jpg

jrok
11-13-2008, 04:36 AM
They also make a 16x8 +15 that's only $99 bucks per rim as well. The XXR 501

http://www.nlmotoring.com/XXR-501-Wheels-16x8-Gun-Metal-p/50168089.htm
http://www.nlmotoring.com/v/vspfiles/photos/50157089-2.jpg

Personally I think these XXR 513's below look wonky in 16x8, the spokes end up looking like a bunch of bananas... and that's about as cool as meshies. (In my book meshies are for Trans-Ams, last I checked I don't drive one).

http://www.nlmotoring.com/v/vspfiles/photos/51357089-2.jpg

And the XXR 002's look wonky the bigger you get.
Look at the 15 next to the larger 18.
http://www.nlmotoring.com/v/vspfiles/photos/00258089-2.jpg

http://www.nlmotoring.com/v/vspfiles/photos/00257082-2.jpg

i like them wanted to go custom centerline but to much this time. cheap ones for now.. and got 3.5" lip

rsdeo
11-13-2008, 06:41 PM
275 at 0 offset = rub, fyi

--billyM

There are members on this forum running 17x9 +0 with 275/40-17 with no rubbing issues. It is possible.

BillyM
11-13-2008, 06:52 PM
...with sissy-bitch horsepower maybe... (I swear we've hashed this out a time or two already...)

Throw turbo grunt to it, and it'll rub. Been there, done that.

--billyM

84supra84
11-14-2008, 12:48 PM
275 at 0 offset = rub, fyi

--billyM

There are members on this forum running 17x9 +0 with 275/40-17 with no rubbing issues. It is possible.

Usually Billy knows what he is talking about.

...with sissy-bitch horsepower maybe... (I swear we've hashed this out a time or two already...)

Throw turbo grunt to it, and it'll rub. Been there, done that.

--billyM


Point Proven

williamb82
11-14-2008, 03:57 PM
...with sissy-bitch horsepower maybe... (I swear we've hashed this out a time or two already...)

Throw turbo grunt to it, and it'll rub. Been there, done that.

--billyM

you sir need to stiffen your rear suspension. :zzzzz: ive launched my 7mgte car on 275/50/15 nittos on 0 offset rims. no rub. :sarcasm:

BillyM
11-14-2008, 04:55 PM
Thinner tread width, smaller diameter....

Apples = Orages

--billyM

hardcore_al
11-14-2008, 05:04 PM
Seein as kmfdmk posted up the xxr's on the last page I thought i'd toss up some pics of the 501's on a supra. (16x8, +15 offset)

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn56/Alcahoulic/DSCF0037.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn56/Alcahoulic/DSCF1204.jpg

williamb82
11-14-2008, 05:05 PM
Thinner tread width, smaller diameter....

Apples = Orages

--billyM

the 275/50/15 nittos are wider and taller then 275/40/17 nittos

http://www.nittotire.com/#index%2Etire%2Ent555r%2Esizes

rsdeo
11-14-2008, 06:00 PM
the 275/50/15 nittos are wider and taller then 275/40/17 nittos

http://www.nittotire.com/#index%2Etire%2Ent555r%2Esizes

They are.

85soops
11-14-2008, 06:41 PM
well from experience i can say that 275/40/17 with a 17x9.5 0 offset will rub the inner portion of the fender flare on the rears. It wont be bad if all of your suspension components are brand new but I have no clue if the suspension was original as it may have tons of sag. My car with 3 guys total and this fitment did scrub a bit under hard acceleration into turns.

my .02

rsdeo
11-15-2008, 01:52 PM
well from experience i can say that 275/40/17 with a 17x9.5 0 offset will rub the inner portion of the fender flare on the rears. It wont be bad if all of your suspension components are brand new but I have no clue if the suspension was original as it may have tons of sag. My car with 3 guys total and this fitment did scrub a bit under hard acceleration into turns.

my .02

Nice input. Thanks.

'85 supra
11-18-2008, 04:33 PM
What size adapters are do I order for the rear? I just purchased a pair of 4x100 from Ichiba and the holes dont line up. I got a set of 255/35/18 for the rear and their touching what I guess is is the a frame part of the suspension so I need to bump it out. I had 235/40/18 like on the front and wanted widen my stance on the rear. Looks good though. I'll post a picture when I get it back together.

gottakeepon
11-18-2008, 05:23 PM
I just purchased a pair of 4x100 from Ichiba and the holes dont line up.

Maybe cause they're 4x100, and our car's use a 4x114....Just a thought.

'85 supra
11-18-2008, 05:33 PM
Thanks for the help Austin

deaf_rattle
11-20-2008, 05:21 AM
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/deaf_rattle/Photos108.jpg

my new wheels
15x7 +15 offset 215-60-15 bridgestone g3s

gottakeepon
11-20-2008, 11:43 AM
my new wheels
15x7 +15 offset 215-60-15 bridgestone g3s

Can i ask why you would go with 215?

deaf_rattle
11-20-2008, 12:03 PM
yes you can!
because i wanted wider than a 205 when i had the stock 15x6s.
ill be going wider later on.

Michael764
11-30-2008, 01:46 AM
[QUOTE=Junkie;329359]SSR Longchamps Gunmetal = 17x7 +25 front,17x8 +25 rear.

Perfect fit IMHO with 225/45 front,255/40 rear

Silver wheels = 17x7 +25 front,17x7.5 + 35 rear additional 25mm adapter on rear.
Ken ??? Tires = 215/45 all 4 corners

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/srpmech/DSC00456.jpg

[QUOTE=Junkie;329359]

how much and where can i find these?

7mgt-66e
11-30-2008, 02:25 AM
[QUOTE=Junkie;329359]SSR Longchamps Gunmetal = 17x7 +25 front,17x8 +25 rear.

Perfect fit IMHO with 225/45 front,255/40 rear

Silver wheels = 17x7 +25 front,17x7.5 + 35 rear additional 25mm adapter on rear.
Ken ??? Tires = 215/45 all 4 corners

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/srpmech/DSC00456.jpg

[QUOTE=Junkie;329359]

how much and where can i find these?

Are you looking for the spacers or the SSR Longchamps. If spacers, here is some.

http://www.m2tuning.com/wheeladapters_4114lug.asp
http://adaptitusa.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=29

SupraMatt
12-01-2008, 03:11 PM
I was just looking at the xxr website and came across the 962 wheel. I was looking at the 17x9's so I called em up. They told me the size was 17x9 with a 4x4.5 and the offset was +35. I am a wheel noob, however I saw this same size on a different wheel earlier in the thread and they said with a 20mm spacer/adapter it fit pretty good.
What do you guys think? I'm mostly wondering if 17x9 would fit the front or if it would be wiser to drop the front's width (they have several available.)

Michael764
12-02-2008, 05:18 PM
spacers, but i'm huge noob status as far as offsets and tires sizes go, but i've been researching and i've heard that these spacers are dangerouse.... opinions?

AChan
12-04-2008, 02:40 AM
spacers, but i'm huge noob status as far as offsets and tires sizes go, but i've been researching and i've heard that these spacers are dangerouse.... opinions?

Spacers are technically dangerous for the wheel bearings. It puts a lot of stress on them with the lower offset you go.

woggin
12-04-2008, 11:39 AM
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v135/5/19/614823795/n614823795_158427_8483.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v126/5/19/614823795/n614823795_157504_3025.jpg

BSA German things. repainted centres. 17x7.5" +0 ET. fronts have 215/40/17 toyos and the rears have 235/40/17

only thing is they are 5 stud! look good though.

heya man, where is ballarat??? anywhere near Perth?? :P
i found your rims
http://www.bsawheels.com.au/users/ProductDetail.aspx?id=376

but they are +40 offset, how'd you get them in 0, also it says 7" howd u get 7.5"??

on that link it says 4x114.3 aswell!!

how much you pay a pot??

cheers
wog

mk2-1jz
12-04-2008, 01:23 PM
its unconfirmed that these fit, I havn't found any pics or info of people putting them on a supra. I imagine they are hard to find, they are Japanese imported wheels. Watanabe R-type. you see them a lot on old Datsuns and some AE86s. They are bascically what Konig copied with the rewinds, except these are the real deal. My only concern is that they would stick out, any thoughts?

Specs:

Front 16x8.5 -6 offset

Rear 16x9.5 -19 offset

Retail $2500 for the set

http://www.watanabewheel.com/products.htm

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/88camrycrazy/Random/watanabe15.jpg

whats the offset of a stock MKII wheel?

BillyM
12-04-2008, 02:05 PM
...alota bling for wheels that don't fit.

You might be able to get them on there if you did some super-mad-tight stretching, but 215's on 9.5's is a bit gay if you ask me.

--billyM

mk2-1jz
12-04-2008, 02:10 PM
yeah, they are really that much too big? damn it, those are sick wheels too. Out of that link to their site, whats the widest model that would fit in 16 inches?

http://www.watanabewheel.com/products.htm

what is the offset of a stock P-type wheel?

gottakeepon
12-04-2008, 03:04 PM
whats the offset of a stock MKII wheel?

Are you serious? Look around...
+8

mk2-1jz
12-04-2008, 04:38 PM
the sarcasm was apreciated :thumbsup: was I being an asshole by asking that?

Chrisfrom1986
12-04-2008, 05:28 PM
Rear 16x9.5 -19 offset wont fit.

I put the 15x8.5 -20 on the back of a friends 85 and even with a crazy stretch the lip of the rim would hit the flare significantly.

mk2-1jz
12-04-2008, 07:07 PM
ahhh, its too bad because the look is so sick. so whats the biggest offest you can run with a 9.5 inch rim?

BillyM
12-04-2008, 08:00 PM
9.5 wide out back, you'll need 0mm on a 255 width tire, +5-+10mm on a 275 width tire...

--billyM

Sean Chung
12-04-2008, 08:56 PM
I think I could run those Watanabes. I run a 15 x 9, -13 in front and a 15 x 10, -13 in rear with 225s/275s. If your spring rates are stiff enough you could run 225/245 with those Wats. Don had those 16 x 9s, 0 offset with 245s, and they fit sweet all the way around.

woggin
12-04-2008, 11:59 PM
14x7 +8 on the P-type, they look hell mean...ill take the 8.5 for the rear!

HOLY MOLY, 12" width wit -57, that would push it out like 130mm?? past standard that is!!! that crazy, imagine the dish on those babies!!

mk2-1jz
12-05-2008, 12:16 AM
I think I could run those Watanabes. I run a 15 x 9, -13 in front and a 15 x 10, -13 in rear with 225s/275s. If your spring rates are stiff enough you could run 225/245 with those Wats. Don had those 16 x 9s, 0 offset with 245s, and they fit sweet all the way around.

I'm running 400 lbs in the back

I wish they were available with 0 offset, I wanted dish for my car though......

whats -13 look like space wise in the back? how close is it to the fender? you have your fender lip rolled in the back?

the pic in your sig, are those the wheels your talking about?

Sean Chung
12-05-2008, 12:47 AM
Here's a picture of it under full compression. (Thanks Don!) I've been meaning to add pictures to this thread, but I always remember after I've taken the wheels off the car. I did roll the metal lip under the rear flare and shaved some of the lip off the inside of the flare where it can't be seen. With the 500# springs in the rear, the 275s never rub. As you can see in the pic, my front tire is just about off the ground (I wish that cone wasn't there). I'll try to remember to get some front and rear pics to show how the offset fits. They don't stick out past the fenders at all, just fit flush.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/Silisup/Supra.jpg

mk2-1jz
12-05-2008, 12:51 AM
nice, Ill be waiting on that :thumbsup:

Chrisfrom1986
12-05-2008, 08:14 AM
Heres a pic of the 15x8.5 -20 with the suspension compressed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/xok/IMAG0124.jpg

zank
12-05-2008, 10:32 AM
ohh the fuzzzz!!!!!!!! :duh:

mk2-1jz
12-05-2008, 03:27 PM
ok, anyone running these on their cars?

another option that I'm liking

XXR 513 16x8 Gun Metal 4-100/114.3. 0 offset with 3.5 inch lip

http://www.nlmotoring.com/XXR-513-Wheels-16x8-Gun-Metal-p/51368089.htm

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm248/mk2-1jz/51357089-2.jpghttp://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm248/mk2-1jz/51357089-3.jpg


according to that site I can have a set of them delieverd for 560$ USD. thats really not bad

thoughts of look and fitment?

mk2-1jz
12-05-2008, 03:55 PM
here is a really fast photoshop

you cant tell what the dish would be like though

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm248/mk2-1jz/SuprainLaprairielowered0060_XXR16.jpg

7mgt-66e
12-05-2008, 07:26 PM
sean, man I love your car. I need to get me a pair of 10's for the rear. Don't think my 9's -27 are as good looking as yours.

Malloy
12-05-2008, 07:45 PM
Sean, for a street car with Eibach/ST/King etc that may carry a passenger, trunk full of stuff etc, would you recommend such an extreme fitment?

Also, you did some wheel well opening mods that most do not want to do. I'm glad you shared that in you 2nd post. BTW, LOVE the car :)

Here's a picture of it under full compression. (Thanks Don!) I've been meaning to add pictures to this thread, but I always remember after I've taken the wheels off the car. I did roll the metal lip under the rear flare and shaved some of the lip off the inside of the flare where it can't be seen. With the 500# springs in the rear, the 275s never rub. As you can see in the pic, my front tire is just about off the ground (I wish that cone wasn't there). I'll try to remember to get some front and rear pics to show how the offset fits. They don't stick out past the fenders at all, just fit flush.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/Silisup/Supra.jpg

thor20
12-05-2008, 11:58 PM
What wheels are you running Sean? They look like a set Work equip 03s in the pic. I've read most of this thread and couldn't find it. That is exactly the style I'm looking for.

Chrisfrom1986
12-06-2008, 12:14 PM
Yes, those are genuine Work Equips.

mk2-1jz
12-06-2008, 01:32 PM
no one has any comments about these?

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm248/mk2-1jz/51357089-3.jpg

Sean Chung
12-06-2008, 01:52 PM
Someone has mounted a set of these in another thread. Look like a good fit and price.

http://forums.celicasupra.com/showthread.php?t=42896

7mgt-66e
12-06-2008, 02:07 PM
no one has any comments about these?

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm248/mk2-1jz/51357089-3.jpg

Haven't mounted onto the Supra yet but here's pics of it on my Celica. Mines the 16x8 0 offset.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb262/7mgt-66e/DSC08324.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb262/7mgt-66e/DSC08325.jpg

Here's the rear fitment.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb262/7mgt-66e/DSC07415.jpg
And with a 25mm spacer.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb262/7mgt-66e/DSC08322.jpg

I seen a MKII in Long Beach with the wheels. I'll try to take pics when I see it again.

jrok
12-06-2008, 06:43 PM
no one has any comments about these?

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm248/mk2-1jz/51357089-3.jpg

they look really good mine are gun metal grey... have some 2455016 toyo proxes 4's coming as soon as i get them on ill take a pic..... may have to trim under front fender flare a bit they are 16x8 0mm offset..... any ?'s just ask......

jrok
12-06-2008, 07:18 PM
Spacers are technically dangerous for the wheel bearings. It puts a lot of stress on them with the lower offset you go.

if you keep close to a 0 offset the wheel bearings are fine, its if you go to a crazy offset then it will put alot of stress on the wb's eg. a - 13mm offset will be hard a wb's......a +25mm wheel with a 25mm spacer makes it a 0 offset that is fine.....
but i do think in general they shouldn't be used just get a wheel that fits...

gottakeepon
12-06-2008, 07:30 PM
they look really good mine are gun metal grey... have some 2455016 toyo proxes 4's coming as soon as i get them on ill take a pic..... may have to trim under front fender flare a bit

On my car, i had to trim quite a bit with 245/50/16 tires. It also still rubs when going over bumps in a turn, and will rub at full lock either way. Not rubbing on the fender turning turns, not sure what, but its definitely rubbing a little bit still.

SuperSubs
12-06-2008, 09:34 PM
XXR (Sportmax) 513, 16x8. 0mm offset all the way around
Nexen 3000's 245/45 all the way around.

Extreemly happy with fittment/performance/price. It really is one of the better wheels that's bang for your buck, but still known as kind of a cheap set up (but some of us are on the scrub, and still paying off their hairdryers!!!!) It could bennefit from a small spacer in the rear to bring it out a bit more flush with the rear, but with the way it is, there is little to no tire shine/ dirt splatter on the side of the car.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/supersubs86/IMG_2305.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/supersubs86/IMG_2173.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/supersubs86/IMG_2200.jpg

SuperSubs
12-06-2008, 09:37 PM
^^^^^^ By the way, ST springs and alot of junk in trunk that lowers the ass down. I have not hit one area of rubbing since installed (then again, I usually don't max out my turning angles as I don't have power steering)


****EDIT***** DARN!, I just saw that link to my own mounted thread, lol. Sorry for the repost....

sowsley
12-06-2008, 10:10 PM
My heart races every time I see a photo of your car. You do great work.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/supersubs86/IMG_2305.jpg

jrok
12-07-2008, 01:58 PM
when you go to a zero offset you need to increase the diameter to keep the scrub radius close to the same.....

Chrisfrom1986
12-07-2008, 09:05 PM
Uh, what?

SuperSubs
12-07-2008, 10:46 PM
Uh, what?

x2...

If you search around, the 245/45 is the prefered size to keep very close to the original outside diameter. (absolutely no scrubbage with zero ofset on an 8 inch wide rim....) Are you sure you didn't go with 245/50 because they are cheaper/ easier to find???

SuperSubs
12-07-2008, 10:48 PM
My heart races every time I see a photo of your car. You do great work.

Thanks!

I try my best, and whole community here on CS as a whole has helped me make my car what it is, I would be a lost fool without everyone!!

gottakeepon
12-08-2008, 04:11 PM
Uh, what?

x2...

If you search around, the 245/45 is the prefered size to keep very close to the original outside diameter. (absolutely no scrubbage with zero ofset on an 8 inch wide rim....) Are you sure you didn't go with 245/50 because they are cheaper/ easier to find???

x3 what are you talking about? 245/45/16 is actually what you need for the speedo, they will rub, its nothing close to the stock rub radius,