View Full Version : Wheel options with 5 x 114.3 low offset?


SilverMk2
06-15-2004, 02:35 AM
Anyone know of any decent options for 5x114.3 street wheels in the 0-10 offset range in 16 or 17" sizes. I've been looking for wheels for the MkII pending a successful hub swap. Best option I've seen so far has been some Mustang Cobra knockoffs in 16x8 0 offset (only $500 for all 4 :) ) , Centerline has several 16x8 and 17x8 in +10, and Ronal has a few. Outside of that I haven't found a whole lot. I know of the obvious custom options HRE, Fikse, etc etc. TIA

rsdeo
06-15-2004, 02:46 AM
Anyone know of any decent options for 5x114.3 street wheels in the 0-10 offset range in 16 or 17" sizes. I've been looking for wheels for the MkII pending a successful hub swap. Best option I've seen so far has been some Mustang Cobra knockoffs in 16x8 0 offset (only $500 for all 4 :) ) , Centerline has several 16x8 and 17x8 in +10, and Ronal has a few. Outside of that I haven't found a whole lot. I know of the obvious custom options HRE, Fikse, etc etc. TIA

'86 to '89 Starion.

16x7 +18 Front 16x8 -10 rear. 67.1 center bore.
16x8 +18 Front 16x9 +0 rear. 67.1 center bore.

http://www.ilkt.com/celicasupra/starionraer.jpg
http://www.ilkt.com/celicasupra/compare1.jpg
http://www.ilkt.com/celicasupra/compare3.jpg
http://www.ilkt.com/celicasupra/suprastarion1.jpg
http://www.ilkt.com/celicasupra/suprastarion2.jpg

Z31 parts are 66.1 center bore and Crown parts are 67.1 center bore. So Starion wheels are a perfect fit at 67.1. They also look perfect on our cars, they way they should have come from the factory.

I might be getting a set of wheels that are 16x7 and 16x8 that will clear even a Z31 caliper with lip.

rsdeo
06-15-2004, 02:59 AM
More options, but expensive. Still really nice rims.

http://www.CelicaSupra.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9026

There are a lot of rims out there in 5x114.3. It's just a matter of how much you want to pay.

williamb82
06-15-2004, 02:00 PM
what bolt pattern and offset are the trans am 16inch mesh wheels? those would look nice.

rsdeo
06-15-2004, 03:24 PM
Those GM models are 120.7, center bore is 70.3. This incidently is the same as early Jaguars, but center bore is 74.1.

The GTA was equiped with 16x8 +0 wheels if I'm not mistaken.

Interesting thing to note is in my early measurements the Z31 hub face sat 6mm further out than the stock hubs on the spindle. This means that in order to get the same back/front spacing as the stock wheel (which is a +8 offset) on the stock hub, you will need a wheel that is a +14 offset with the Z31 hub. So the Starion 16x7 +18 offset wheels will fit really well using the Z31 hub. There should be no issues with tyre rub on the front flare. It also leaves room for a spacer if one is really needed.

bbaacchhyy
06-15-2004, 06:09 PM
Raj, those Starion wheels look great. I'd love a set of the 16x8 & 9's, but don't know if they'd clear the brakes. Bugger we can't get them here :cry:

One thing to be careful about though, is the caliper spacing required if you go with some form of big brakes/4 piston calipers.

I fluked it with mine :wink: , but it pays to make sure that it is taken into consideration

Cheers

Michael

SupraWes
06-15-2004, 09:03 PM
Does anyone know the weight of those starion wheels? I just bought a set at the junkyard for a friend but I am having evil thoughts and thinking about keeping them and having the holes welded up and redrilled for 4x114

bbaacchhyy
06-15-2004, 09:27 PM
having the holes welded up and redrilled for 4x114

Don't do it. They is no way that you can guarantee sufficient strength.

You are just asking for trouble. Better off redrilling the stubs, although it is not so easy on the fronts due to the design for holding on the discs.

BTW, what do the 16x8 and 16x9 sets go for without tyres ? And any idea of what the inner rim clearance diameter is (i.e. what is the room available for a set of big discs ?).

Cheers

Michael B

rsdeo
06-15-2004, 11:18 PM
Sorry, but you will need a spacer to clear the Z32 caliper with 16x7 fronts if the caliper is mounted to the strut without an adapter. Though being a +18 offset wheel there is space for one. Don't have a 16x8 front to try. I have the 16x7 front and 16x8 rear setup. Harder to find the 16x8 and 16x9 set up.

The JK BBK should not have a clearance problem though.

I will double check this week and see what kind of clearance there is and what kind of mod will work. I will also post the dimensions. Keep an eye here for what I find.

Funny these wheels aren't available in Canada either.

rsdeo
06-17-2004, 01:16 AM
I just picked up the following Works wheels. 16x7 and 16x8, 5x114.3 bolt pattern. Brand new, but dirty from sitting on display for years. Will fit an L-type perfect after a 5 bolt conversion.

http://www.ilkt.com/celicasupra/work1.jpg
http://www.ilkt.com/celicasupra/work2.jpg
http://www.ilkt.com/celicasupra/work3.jpg

I will possibly split and resize these wheels.

SilverMk2
06-17-2004, 02:00 AM
Hmmm Starion wheels wouldn't be bad. The 16x9 0 offset would be great for the back. The 16x8 +18 would be good in the front with a 10mm spacer. You can get those pre made from H&R cheap. I've always liked those wheels anyway, even if the car itself is Fugly. I'd never spend the money on Volks, way overpriced IMHO. I'd rather have the Fikse FM5 I want.

bbaacchhyy
06-17-2004, 05:02 PM
I just picked up the following Works wheels. 16x7 and 16x8, 5x114.3 bolt pattern. Brand new, but dirty from sitting on display for years. Will fit an L-type perfect after a 5 bolt conversion.

I will possibly split and resize these wheels.

Nice wheels Raj. What did you get them for if you don't mind me asking ?

Only hassle with those rims and the deep dish is the lack of hub depth to clear the calipers with a brake upgrade like mine.

Look schmick tho'

williamb82
06-17-2004, 05:03 PM
man, thos works wheels are nice. the front wheel needs more lip though.
william

rsdeo
06-17-2004, 07:25 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys.

The wheel offsets are as follows, 16x7 +28 and 16x8 +4. They have that cool '70s/'80s Ferrari look and high lip width for the back where you want it.

The 16x7 clears the strut and the ID is larger enough to clear a 280mm disc with a Z32 caliper. The only issue is the caliper face and spokes. A 4mm spacer is needed or a little machining off the rear face of the spokes. Being +28 offset an adapter or spacer of up to 28mm can be used easily without bringing out the wheel too much. So there are lots of options, less lip means bigger brakes.

The 16x8 rear needs nothing, with lots of lip where you want it in the back and both wheel sizes should be no problem clearing the JK BBK I will be mounting.

Perfect width for L-types and nice for P-types now. I was thinking pf possibly splitting the 16x7 and making it a 16x9 0 offset for the rear with new hoops. I will then use the 16x8 for the front. Then perfect with for P-types.

Already have one person ask me if I would sell them on this forum. Hard to find now, especially brand new, in offsets like this without going custom. May sell if price is right.

EL PAALO
06-17-2004, 08:26 PM
takumiproject.com

83celicagts
06-19-2004, 09:08 PM
RAJ,

Those rims are to die for here in California....I have many askers frequently asking to sell my Ewing fin rims, which are exactly like your 5 stars but in the fins configuration...my rims that i'm running are, 16x8 fronts and 16x9 rears.....with chrome cap and lug ring....my have same off set as your rears but the front have slightly a larger lip, but not much more.....here the drifting scene is blowing up and alot of guys are trying to bring back the old school rims. Recently, SSR (SPEED STAR RACING) has brought back into production, their formula mesh series. We have a bunch of importing companies bringing in rims from Japan that are used but only in pairs as the other two accompanying rims have bad curb rash, so your four rims are to die for....."we call them keepers"......DONT SELL THEM unless somebody offers your that pretty penny for them....remember though, they will only be worth what somebody offers you for them...so take bids. My rims I cannot part with it would take a pretty good dollar amount for me to part with...to me they are priceless. However its always going to be, "To each their own", you know....its all personal perference. I bought my wife a pretty diamond for her ring, these four rims I have are my diamond rings for my car!!!! KEEP THEM!

It will keep your car unique from the rest as everybody is buying the new rims on the market since they are currently available...your rims are like finding a needle in a field of hay. If you do find some, I guarantee, they wont be in the shape that your's are.....Its yours and mine and Joji of Toysport that have the cleanest set...however, Joji has SPEED STAR RACING version (SSR). Same thing as Works...actually, SSR is to Toyota, as WORKS are to Lexus!

rsdeo
06-20-2004, 12:39 AM
RAJ,

Those rims are to die for here in California....I have many askers frequently asking to sell my Ewing fin rims, which are exactly like your 5 stars but in the fins configuration...my rims that i'm running are, 16x8 fronts and 16x9 rears.....with chrome cap and lug ring....my have same off set as your rears but the front have slightly a larger lip, but not much more.....here the drifting scene is blowing up and alot of guys are trying to bring back the old school rims. Recently, SSR (SPEED STAR RACING) has brought back into production, their formula mesh series. We have a bunch of importing companies bringing in rims from Japan that are used but only in pairs as the other two accompanying rims have bad curb rash, so your four rims are to die for....."we call them keepers"......DONT SELL THEM unless somebody offers your that pretty penny for them....remember though, they will only be worth what somebody offers you for them...so take bids. My rims I cannot part with it would take a pretty good dollar amount for me to part with...to me they are priceless. However its always going to be, "To each their own", you know....its all personal perference. I bought my wife a pretty diamond for her ring, these four rims I have are my diamond rings for my car!!!! KEEP THEM!

It will keep your car unique from the rest as everybody is buying the new rims on the market since they are currently available...your rims are like finding a needle in a field of hay. If you do find some, I guarantee, they wont be in the shape that your's are.....Its yours and mine and Joji of Toysport that have the cleanest set...however, Joji has SPEED STAR RACING version (SSR). Same thing as Works...actually, SSR is to Toyota, as WORKS are to Lexus!

I didn't know that Work wheels were so popular. I do know that they are expensive. I saw the pricing and what it starts at: 14x5 2 pce wheels are $330-$330/wheel. :shock:

Mine are brand new. They sat for 10+ years on display on top of a high shelf. That is why the sides are covered in heavy dust.

Among SSR and Work there is also Weds and Rays. All good.

83celicagts
06-20-2004, 03:47 AM
oh yes!!! WEDS....here in Gardena, California, known as little Toykyo of Southern California, as well as J-town in down town LOS ANGELES was the capital of SUPRAS AND CELICA's......., WEDS made a rim called AUTOBAHNS that were a one piece mesh with a reversed lip like your rims, Raj...those rims were and are real popular amongst the AE86 Corollas....those rims are a rare set of wheels especially for those spec'd for the P-type and L-type supras and celcia gt's and GTS's!!! Mad lip and polished face real nice wheels. Another popular rim back in 80's that were more affordable but real nice with the Supras and Celicas were the Enkei 92's. If you had money to spend people had HAYASHI rims imported from Japan and the popular style was the mesh too!!! I miss those days, seeing all these RWD Toyotas rolling around on nice rims. Back then it was make your car real nice and an awesome sound system....those days were so innocent and the love and respect for cars was much more appreciated then it is today....today, people hate too much on each others cars and always critizie what you have or dont have.....the good ol' days!

2ndGen6Msupra
06-21-2004, 04:11 AM
Those rims are really nice.and like gts mentioned about those other rims,those are nice looking ones too.toysport has nice rims also.

SupraFiend
06-21-2004, 05:03 PM
hmmm, familiar looking wheels there Rsdeo

http://www.pbase.com/image/18631924

I like my Hayashi's, 15s are nice and cheap. I may still get my fronts widened to match the 8s in the rear.

nice find!

Malloy
06-21-2004, 05:08 PM
Am I missing something here.... or are these 5lug wheels that wont fit a mk2? :?

SupraFiend
06-21-2004, 05:32 PM
I think he bought them to use on his car after the 5 lug conversion.

Mine are correct bolt pattern\offset

Malloy
06-21-2004, 05:41 PM
Has anyone done a 5lug conversion on a mk2 yet?

bbaacchhyy
06-21-2004, 05:44 PM
Has anyone done a 5lug conversion on a mk2 yet?

Yep. :D

Malloy
06-21-2004, 05:58 PM
Cool. Can you share details? I would love to add that to the site, as it will open up countless wheel opportunities for mk2 guys.

bbaacchhyy
06-21-2004, 06:34 PM
It is covered in several places ;

http://www.celicasupra.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5530

My trials and tribulations re the 5 stud conversion and barke upgrade ;

http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&th=21852&rid=3701&S=08d6c7b239abee395109b92b27af97f5&pl_view=&start=0#msg_180631

I am almost done, it is now just a matter of finishing things off

Cheers

Michael B

rsdeo
06-21-2004, 06:52 PM
Got all the parts thanks to Michael, will install this coming winter with JK BBK.

rsdeo
06-21-2004, 07:02 PM
hmmm, familiar looking wheels there Rsdeo

http://www.pbase.com/image/18631924

I like my Hayashi's, 15s are nice and cheap. I may still get my fronts widened to match the 8s in the rear.

nice find!

Nice rims you got there. One thing I like about the Work wheels is that they have a really large center and reverse lip. So easy to make larger. Like say 17" or 18".

rsdeo
12-15-2004, 06:25 PM
Okay really cheap 5x114.3 alloy wheels in 17x7.5 and +12 offset. They are OEM for the Ford Ranger. Will fit the Z32, Starion and Crown hubs/stubs.

http://ilkt.com/celicasupra/ranger17x75.JPG

Dangerous Ken
12-16-2004, 01:11 PM
Blah, I still like the works 16's.
And crown 5 bolt parts will be swimming to me soon.
And I'm converting a L type.
Any more hints Raj?

Ken

rsdeo
12-16-2004, 01:35 PM
Blah, I still like the works 16's.
And crown 5 bolt parts will be swimming to me soon.
And I'm converting a L type.
Any more hints Raj?

Ken

That's great news Ken. Did you get them from Michael? He is a great guy to deal with. Are you getting both front and rears?

I'm always looking for new rims for 4 and 5 bolt applications. I just posted them as cheap wheels for those on a budget or for track use. Starion rims are much nicer and with four different sizes in 16" diameter it makes things easier.

I'm thinking of cutting out the centers from The Work wheels and making them larger. Unless I decide to sell them.

My second BBK has arrived and is at DJs for me to pick up whenever I have time to go get it. Once I get it I will drill the 5 hole pattern and it should work perfect with the Crown parts. We'll know for sure when I install them. Rears I know will be a perfect fit. To mount the stock rear discs on the 5 bolt stubs, just redrill them to 5 bolt. Fronts seemed to be the same when I made a few quick measurements. I tried the 4 bolt BBK front hat on a 5 and 4 bolt hub and the offset seemed to be the same.

Did you see this HERE (http://www.celicasupra.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12402&highlight=starion+crown).

I'll post any more wheels I find.

Dangerous Ken
12-16-2004, 01:51 PM
Yes, I'm getting both fronts and rears from Michael.

I'm interested in a lot of wheels you have Raj :!:
Like the works 16's that will fit a L Type.
And the braid 4 bolt 16's when you go 5 bolt.

Just haven't decided on R32 for 'regular' or R33 calipers for Norbies mx83 strut mod. Probably both, as there are three mkII's to restore here.

Ken

calebsupra
12-21-2004, 11:17 AM
I have been looking for rims for a while and found out that a lot of BMW rims should work with a 5 lug conversion. Try http://www.aaarims.com/specials/bmw-7-e32.shtml

SilverMk2
12-21-2004, 01:27 PM
I think bimmer wheel are 5x120 (same with Benz too IIRC)? Not 100% sure on that one though.

rsdeo
12-21-2004, 04:04 PM
I think bimmer wheel are 5x120 (same with Benz too IIRC)? Not 100% sure on that one though.

Correct.

bbaacchhyy
12-21-2004, 04:54 PM
I think bimmer wheel are 5x120 (same with Benz too IIRC)? Not 100% sure on that one though.

Correct on the Bimmer, but here in Oz, the Merc stuff is 5 x 112 !!!!!! :shock:

rsdeo
12-21-2004, 05:26 PM
I think bimmer wheel are 5x120 (same with Benz too IIRC)? Not 100% sure on that one though.

Correct on the Bimmer, but here in Oz, the Merc stuff is 5 x 112 !!!!!! :shock:

Correct again.

rsdeo
03-09-2005, 03:07 PM
Here we go again.

I just picked up another set of brand new Work rims with good lip.
http://ilkt.com/celicasupra/work5.jpg

http://ilkt.com/celicasupra/work6.jpg
They are a set of 5 wheels, all the same and complete with everything.

White centers.
16x8
5x112 +4 offset
Center bore of 66.5

Yes they are 5x112, but they can easily be machined and inserts pressed in to make them 5x114.3. The center bore is good for Nissan (66.1) and can easily be opened up for Crown (67.1) and Starion (67.1) parts.

SlickDizzy
04-07-2005, 09:16 PM
Sorry to bump an old thread.

All the pics of the Starion wheels and stuff are down. I know what they look like, but I'd like to see a pic of them on a MkII.

rsdeo
04-07-2005, 11:49 PM
Lost my picture hosting. I will have to look up my backup discs to find the images and repost them....

SlickDizzy
04-13-2005, 08:09 PM
I tried photoshopping my own, to see what it looked like, and I like it a lot:
http://evilallianceracing.com/ipw-web/gallery/albums/album181/starionwheels.jpg

white_mk_2
04-13-2005, 08:16 PM
That looks PIMP 8-)

Tanya
04-13-2005, 08:20 PM
I tried photoshopping my own, to see what it looked like, and I like it a lot:
http://evilallianceracing.com/ipw-web/gallery/albums/album181/starionwheels.jpg

after I stopped drooling over that green, I noticed the wheels, wow that looks pretty good! I lot better than I would have expected :shock:

SlickDizzy
04-13-2005, 08:42 PM
I tried photoshopping my own, to see what it looked like, and I like it a lot:
http://evilallianceracing.com/ipw-web/gallery/albums/album181/starionwheels.jpg

after I stopped drooling over that green, I noticed the wheels, wow that looks pretty good! I lot better than I would have expected :shock:

I know, isn't it great? Every morning I get up and see this car and I'm like "my GOD that color looks good". :D

bbaacchhyy
04-13-2005, 09:21 PM
It is a pity we can't get these wheels over here, as they would be fantastic on the car :cry:

white_mk_2
04-13-2005, 11:32 PM
It is a pity we can't get these wheels over here, as they would be fantastic on the car :cry:

Where there's a will (and $$$), there's a way :)

bbaacchhyy
04-13-2005, 11:46 PM
I have the will, but the $$$ make it unpalatable.

I already have another set of 17x8" 3-piece Rays rims on the way anyway for less than USD$500, so I'm happy :D

SilverMk2
04-13-2005, 11:59 PM
Starion/Conquest wheels aren't really even that easy to get here (at least the widebody ones). I think most Starions went to junkyard heaven long ago. I probably see about 100 Mk2s for every Starion I see.

white_mk_2
04-14-2005, 12:29 AM
I already have another set of 17x8" 3-piece Rays rims on the way anyway for less than USD$500, so I'm happy :D

Oh sure, just rub it in. :cry:

bbaacchhyy
04-14-2005, 01:09 AM
I already have another set of 17x8" 3-piece Rays rims on the way anyway for less than USD$500, so I'm happy :D

Oh sure, just rub it in. :cry:

To rub it in abit more, here is a pic...


http://www.importbitz.com/images/wheels/rays-17x8.jpg

Oh, and they are +10 offset too 8-)

rsdeo
04-14-2005, 04:26 PM
To rub it in abit more, here is a pic...


http://www.importbitz.com/images/wheels/rays-17x8.jpg

Oh, and they are +10 offset too 8-)

So you got them.... nice find a sweet deal too. A lot better deal than what I can find.

bbaacchhyy
04-14-2005, 08:51 PM
Yep I got them, but now I have to pay for them !!!!

The good thing is that they are completely different look to my current mags, so will give the benefit of having differennt looks for different moods.
'
Not sure what rims will end up as track rims, so will make that decision when they finally land here

Cheers

Michael B

rsdeo
04-19-2005, 08:45 PM
More wheels in 5 bolt I picked up. All 15" diameter and 2" of lip. Brand new and still in factory boxes. Came complete with all the parts and caps.

http://img233.echo.cx/img233/1308/work77hg.jpg
http://img233.echo.cx/img233/7363/work85pa.jpg

http://img241.echo.cx/img241/1946/work96eu.jpg

Getting harder and harder to find. Too bad they are not bigger. Stil I can rehoop them to 16" or 17".

bbaacchhyy
04-19-2005, 09:25 PM
Nice pickup there Raj (again...)

What are the specs - stud pattern, offset & width ?

rsdeo
04-19-2005, 10:37 PM
Nice pickup there Raj (again...)

What are the specs - stud pattern, offset & width ?

Not as nice as those 17" rims you picked up, but you have to deal with what you can find.

5x112, mesh 7" +13, five star 6.5" +36 and 6.0" +30.

The stud holes have hardened steel inserts installed. They will be pressed out, the holes slightly largened on a milling machine and new hardened steel inserts pressed in. Then the wheels will be 5x114.3.

The hoops will be removed and new hoops installed. Possibly 16" or 17".

lechner
05-04-2005, 01:20 PM
Okay really cheap 5x114.3 alloy wheels in 17x7.5 and +12 offset. They are OEM for the Ford Ranger. Will fit the Z32, Starion and Crown hubs/stubs.The image you posted is gone and the information I have seen contradicts this statement (Ranger wheels are 15" with 16" optional), so I was wondering if you could point to some more info on these wheels.

rsdeo
05-04-2005, 02:11 PM
The image you posted is gone and the information I have seen contradicts this statement (Ranger wheels are 15" with 16" optional), so I was wondering if you could point to some more info on these wheels.

Unfortunately that image was hosted on a site that lost all it's content. So any images I posted hosted by that site will no longer work. I can repost all the images if I locate them on my backed up discs, but then I would have to edit the links. It is just too much work.

The wheel was not that good anyway, probably far too heavy for what we need it for.

Go with Starion rims.

rsdeo
05-05-2005, 11:44 PM
I know I've mentioned these before at http://www.ronalusa.com .

http://www.ronalusa.com/wheels/opt-images/r7/r7-5lug-deep.jpg
http://www.ronalusa.com/wheels/opt-images/r7/r7-5lug-deep-text.gif

http://www.ronalusa.com/wheels/opt-images/r41/r41_quarter.jpg
R-41
NEW Sterling Silver Paint Finish
16-18" sizes, 5 Lug
16x7.5", 17x8", 18x8" Sizes
5x98, 5x100, 5x108, 5x110, 5x112, 5x114.3,
5x115, 5x120, 5x120.65
Offset, ET 12-50mm range
Lightweight, 17x8" @ 22lbs.

http://www.ronalusa.com/wheels/opt-images/lv/lv-5lug.jpg
http://www.ronalusa.com/wheels/opt-images/lv/lv-text.gif

http://www.ronalusa.com/wheels/opt-images/r38/r48_4_lug.jpg
http://www.ronalusa.com/wheels/opt-images/r38/r38_text_5lug.jpg

http://www.ronalusa.com/wheels/opt-images/rt/rt-5lug-deep.jpg
[RT, 5 Lug Deep Lip, 17"
17x7.5", Et 0-155mm, wgt. 21 lbs.
5x112, 5x114.3, 5x115, 5x120, 5x120.65

Some of these are also available in 4 bolt.

rsdeo
07-13-2005, 01:04 PM
Rota makes these.

18 x 9.0 0/+5/+15 5h/6h x 114.3/127/135/139.7

http://www.rotawheels.com/images/products/journey.jpg

If they only made an 8" in the same design. Though they did say they are working on staggered fitments to come out soon. Let's hope they produce an 8" in this design.

rsdeo
07-21-2005, 03:00 AM
http://www.rotawheels.com/images/products

journey.jpg

williamb82
09-21-2005, 01:59 AM
any other wheels? i need to find 17x7 0 offset and 17x9-9.5 0 offset. i should be getting some 5 lug rear stubs and figure i better find some wheels i like now.
william

rsdeo
11-24-2005, 12:13 AM
Here was a great buy on Ebay for a set of rarer rims. These were only available on a Special Handling Package option and if I'm not mistaken also only offered for two years.

Click here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fse arch.dll%3Fcgiurl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.co m%252Fws%252F%26fkr%3D1%26from%3DR8%26satitle%3D80 16225048%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1&item=8016225048)

16x8 +18 front and 16x9 +0 rears. They would look hot on a Ptype.

williamb82
11-24-2005, 11:46 AM
i saw those. i actually have a guy looking for a set of those for me locally. i think theyd look pretty god on the blue car. but still, any aftermarket wheels that wont break the bank in 17in sizes?

rsdeo
12-02-2005, 07:45 PM
Here was a great buy on Ebay for a set of rarer rims. These were only available on a Special Handling Package option and if I'm not mistaken also only offered for two years.

Click here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fse arch.dll%3Fcgiurl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.co m%252Fws%252F%26fkr%3D1%26from%3DR8%26satitle%3D80 16225048%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1&item=8016225048)

16x8 +18 front and 16x9 +0 rears. They would look hot on a Ptype.

My friend actually won this auction on my behalf and the wheels finally arrived.

Starion 16x8 +18 and 16x9 +0 rims compared to a Supra 14x7 rim.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6061/starion89a9kp.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9969/starion89b6hb.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3160/starion89c0nu.jpg

They look hot!

KCheng
12-02-2005, 09:34 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Starion-Conquest-SHP-Wheels-2-SETS_W0QQitemZ8018313001QQcategoryZ43956QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

2sets!

rsdeo
01-07-2006, 02:05 AM
How about these Crown Victoria wheels in 16x7, 5x114.3? Don't know the offset, but they do have pretty good lip on them. 2" to 2.5" anyway.

http://www.car-part.com/images/interchange/W3449B.gif

rsdeo
01-08-2006, 12:50 AM
Earlier ones in 16x7 look a little nicer to me.

http://market.autopartsfair.com/images/products/bodyparts/aly03225u10n.jpg

Offsets are +6.4mm of both wheels.

rsdeo
01-08-2006, 10:54 PM
Another pic.

http://img429.imageshack.us/img429/1139/sidemesh3as.gif

Could there really be that much lip?

williamb82
01-09-2006, 04:51 PM
no, ive seen them. looks like a photoshop. but these wheels prolly would look good as long as we have a front hub option that doesnt require higher ofset then that.

rsdeo
01-12-2006, 05:00 PM
I picked up a single 16x7 Crown Victoria rim that a local wrecker had, they had no more unfortunately. It's really dirty, but no curb rash or dents. Just needs a serious cleaning and at $50 a good deal I thought.

http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/8/meshface5ex.jpg

http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/8123/meshback3gi.jpg
Casting states "Made in Italy" and "16x7".
http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/4931/mesdim7mq.jpg
Lip depth is 2.5".
http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/7140/meshlip0hn.jpg

I measured the back spacing and bore, 4.25" and ~71.3 mm. That makes the offset +6 as I found on the net earlier.

So not bad. Old school mesh rims, 16x7 +6 offset and decent lip for $50/rim. Anyone doubting the validity of the 5 bolt swap now with the availabilty of Crown Vic and Starion wheels?

Dangerous Ken
01-12-2006, 05:59 PM
Anyone doubting the validity of the 5 bolt swap now with the availabilty of Crown Vic and Starion wheels?

Yes - Me.
If you are lucky enough to afford And also to find 4 bolt wheels you like, there is no reason to convert 4 to 5...

Ken

rsdeo
01-13-2006, 03:43 AM
There are also wheels for Jeep YJs, Liberties, etc. 5x114.3 in 15" and 16". Offsets vary, but close to +6. Rubicons are equiped with 16x8 wheels, but other models had 15x7, 15x8 and 16x7 wheels in various styles.

The following is an aftermarket rim in 5x114.3, 16x8 +6 offset.

http://www.quadratec.com/photos/p30764.JPG

Another cheap source for wheels.

rsdeo
01-13-2006, 03:45 AM
Yes - Me.
If you are lucky enough to afford And also to find 4 bolt wheels you like, there is no reason to convert 4 to 5...

Ken


Those rims are nice, but so hard to find. Must be expensive too.

Dangerous Ken
01-13-2006, 12:15 PM
Those rims are nice, but so hard to find. Must be expensive too.

Raj,

My viewpoint is the conversion is going to cost over $600 without the wheels included. That's crown rears from Austrailia, 'whatever' front hubs, and the labor to switch out four hubs.

So Any 'cheap' 5 bolt wheel you find is the cost of the four wheels, Plus $600.

Well, I've found two sets of 17" 4 bolt SSR Longchamps for $600 and $900 Delivered. Not expensive at all.

Then there's Centerline, at about $700 Delivered in 4 bolt.
Why would I want to go 5 bolt at a conversion cost of $600 if 4 bolt wheels are available for the cost of the conversion?

Thus, I still hold to my opinion, doubting the validity of the 5 bolt conversion, citing both the 'needed additional strength' And the Cost issue.

You are entitled to your opinion and I applaud you for sharing pics of your 5 bolt wheel collection. :)

Ken

rsdeo
01-13-2006, 02:00 PM
Raj,

My viewpoint is the conversion is going to cost over $600 without the wheels included. That's crown rears from Austrailia, 'whatever' front hubs, and the labor to switch out four hubs.

So Any 'cheap' 5 bolt wheel you find is the cost of the four wheels, Plus $600.

Well, I've found two sets of 17" 4 bolt SSR Longchamps for $600 and $900 Delivered. Not expensive at all.

Then there's Centerline, at about $700 Delivered in 4 bolt.
Why would I want to go 5 bolt at a conversion cost of $600 if 4 bolt wheels are available for the cost of the conversion?

Thus, I still hold to my opinion, doubting the validity of the 5 bolt conversion, citing both the 'needed additional strength' And the Cost issue.

You are entitled to your opinion and I applaud you for sharing pics of your 5 bolt wheel collection. :)

Ken


Ken

You are right.... it's those damn rear stubs that drives the price up. If we can only find something available locally. The front hubs are easy to find and converting to a bigger brake is also easy and cheap.

I was the person who posted the thread on the "Centerline build your own" program. The wheels themselves are nice, but not really the style I'm looking for. A paint booth would do wonders though.

I only find suitable style wheels in 5 bolt not 4 bolt, even the offsets are bang on... so conversion needed.