Hey Folks,

got my Braid Rims in Today. Actually came in yesterday, but Canada Customs Decided to get Anal with me. Michael has his already and Christian is going to the airport to pick them up as i write this. Chads'll be in on Monday. Wow... :D ...what can I say....These things are awesome. They all came with 2 wheel cleaners, lugs and for 8 euros we got locking lugs. I'm going to get my Yoko ES100's on Monday...I'll update the picture site then...Till then you just have to settle with this:


http://ca.photos.yahoo.com/bc/supraless/lst?.dir=/Braid+Rims&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/

George
84 6m
89T

um..........................DAYUM!!!!! those are amazing! I love the center cap! very 8)

Wow I had no idea they look so nice,
wish I could have had funds for the group buy!

really nice hope to see them on the car soon 8)

O M G George dude, those are.......... damn, i'm speachless... nice wheels... Mang,, I want some of those...

Anyone mind if I ask what the cost was?
They are beautiful....

Keith,

you can find some of the info on the rims at this link:

http://www.celicasupra.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=180

Otherwise, if you have any other questions on them let me know.

George

:shock: nice...very nice...

:shock: :evil:

They look badass man!!

Great looking wheels! 8) What do they weigh?

That's a great question...my scale is broken at home so I'll have to try another way of fiquring it out.

George

Nice rims. Makes me want to upgrade my rims now. Damn maybe next year as funds permit.

I will try to make it the next Supra meet to check them out.

I like your black '84, I miss mine. I some times think I should have never got rid of it.

karaki check out my site and you'll see mine.

rsdeo

Those rims are absolutely gorgeous! I'd buy a set if I had the money right now.

:cry:

Rsdeo,

that's a sweet looking car man...it's beautiflul. What kind of rims are those...they look awesome on the car. Whatever you do, come to the next meet, we'd all love to see this car in person...till then.

George

HOLLY COW SHIT!!!!!! :shock: :shocked!:

karaki

I'll try to make it, but as I told your friend Nick I work only Saturday and Sunday. This leaves only Monday to Friday open so I miss quit a bit because everything goes on on the weekends.

My rims are okay, there is quit a long story to them. I think yours are better looking though. Maybe next year I'll get a set of 18s or bigger. I'll see whats out there, but first I want to get a V8 Limited 4Runner to go with the '85 and Tacoma.

Looking forward to hooking up and seeing all your cars.

rsdeo.

:crazyeye: :shock: :shocked!: WOW those rims look sooo freakin good 8) . They kinda look like Malloys old rims, which I believe they are Supra_luvas rims now

Anticipation is making me weak :!: The timing couldn't be better. I had 2 of my old AVSi's go flat on me last week...they are so bald :!: I ordered my tires, but they won't be in until the end of the week (Thursday or Friday). Didn't have quite enough to get the S03's, so I had to settle for the AVS Sports. I found a shop that deals with a lot of custom racing wheels, and they guarantee no scratches :evil: or they buy me a new wheel :!:

James, what did you mean when you said they are or need to be reverse mounted?

George, I assume those pics are of one of the 17x9's. How wide is that lip? It looks huge 8)

Chad,

I'm going to follow up with the shipping company in the morning as to who to contact for your package. Ya...the lip is pretty massive, it just a few nose hairs over 4".

Chiao,

George

I was showing my 6 yr old son the pics of your wheels. He was very excited and wants to go to the airport to pick them up with me. Gotta love kids that love cars! I will have my phone on me all week so they should be able to contact me. Thanks again George.

I really like the way they did the stepped lip on those 17's. I really don't think it is going to look much different than the reversed lip on my 16's. By the way, the black looks awesome. Can't wait to see pics of the chrome shadow and glitter :!:

Oh yea...the center cap is Pure Sweetness!!! My wife thought that was very cool.

I agree man...the cap's are totally cool...I'm glad i went with the supra dragon and not the celica xx...thanks for convincing me. I've talked to michael already and he has his, so hopefully he will post pix of his. I'll have pix of the rims on the car on my yahoo site about 8pm tomorrow so check it out.

Till then,

George

Great looking wheels George! Great job on the buy!

Remember to tell the tire guys that these are reverse mount and use plastic coated equipment.

On most tire changing equipment, the wheel is positioned face up. (If they have standard table mount equpment.) 95% of the industry that serves cars do. Reverse mount is when the rear of the wheel faces up. The feet that actually grab the wheel should have plastic shoes so it won't scratch the wheel. The tire iron should also.

If you notice that the portion that dips far below the bead seat is on the back portion of the wheel. See George's wheel below.

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/15340c8c/bc/Braid+Rims/DSCF2879.jpg?bcj.6v.AeJ1MLcvq

This is the part where the tire iron needs get to , in order to leverage the tire onto the wheel. So this part (the rear) should face up.

Those shops that don't care.. have mounted tires strictly on luck and a lot of lube. Standard mounting a reverse mount wheel will increase the chances of destroying the tire bead rendering the tire useless. Most tire shops that deal with aftermarket wheels as part of their business know this. But check to make sure.

Hopefully I will get to see a set in person at the 7th Annual Ohio meet.

Regards,
James R

Thanks, James. I am going to call my shop and make sure they are familiar and setup to properly reverse mount the tires without damaging the wheels. You insight on wheels and tires is always invaluable.

your wheels suck :lol: just because there not mine 8)

your wheels suck :lol: just because there not mine 8)

:roll: :wink:

Supra GTR is exactly right about the plastic covered equipment, but if they don't have the covers for the wheel clamps they can use shop rags folded up, works great. Our shop is cheap and we do a hell of a lot of tires so those little plastic clamps die pretty quickly but I've never had a scratched wheel using rags. Just an extra little thought. Awesome wheels by the way.

Picked mine up on friday. Customs didn't charge me anything in duties, which I really liked. And boy did I get a big hardon when I opened up the 1st box, which happened to be the rear wheel. :D It has one massive lip. That black chrome option came out a lot lighter than I had expected. The back of the spokes is actually darker than the front. Maybe it's because they added a clear coat on the outsid? don't know. But considering my car color, its probly best that it was lighter. I'll send you a pic, George, as soon as I take one.

CHristian

karaki hay i saw the rims on the car ant they look grate whats the size that you have thair 17-8 and 17-9 but whats the offset you got and tier size :?:

0 offset in the back and +10 for the fronts...i'll have more picture by the weekend...these were just a rush job...had to get back to work.

George

Is there some way to see larger pics?

They look really nice, I can't wait to see pics of the other 2 sets! :D

If I have the $$ these may be what I'll get.

They probably will compliment the BBK nicely 8)

Josh,

from what i understand about yahoo photo sites only the actual user can see the larger photos. If i wasn't so dumb :roll: i'd build my own site, but the old brain don't comprehend how to build web pages. If anyone knows of a site where i could put hi res pictures I'll post them there.

The BBK is gonna look sweet with these...I can't wait man.

Thanks,

George
http://ca.photos.yahoo.com/supraless

Nice looking rims and car. What size tyres did you put on?

You can go to http://www.yahoo.ca and from there click on the GeoCities link. At that page you will see a link Build Your Web Site!. Just follow through from there. Thats were I have mine.

rsdeo

GEORGE!!!!!!!!!!!

Just saw the pics of the wheels on the car. One word:

SCHUUUWEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wink: :D :D :D :D

Those look dayam good! Malloy.. you looking at this?

Hope to see Chad's when he comes down for the Ohio meet. We'll have to get the mk2s with aftermarket wheels lined up for a photo.

Josh,

from what i understand about yahoo photo sites only the actual user can see the larger photos. If i wasn't so dumb :roll: i'd build my own site, but the old brain don't comprehend how to build web pages. If anyone knows of a site where i could put hi res pictures I'll post them there.

The BBK is gonna look sweet with these...I can't wait man.

Thanks,

George
http://ca.photos.yahoo.com/supraless


Dam :shock: Those rims loook bad ass on your mk2

<--(wishes he had money for some rims like that :( )

Oh hell yea, they look awesome :twisted:

I also got the wheels, too. Been too busy replacing the valve seals and repairing the cam bearing surfaces in the head and cam. Just put the engine together only to find out later that I may have to go back into the head again as I prolly didn't install the seal correctly (felt 1 click instead of required 2 clicks). Will do that later this summer.

Anyhow, my wheels are nice! Sorry, no digital camera. I'm hoping that the wheel shop will be finished (need minor machining on the front wheels to clear the grease hub) by Monday. Too close to Dayton's meet.

Malloy, do you remember approximately how many threads/turns to tighten the lug nuts with simmons wheels?

James Razor, how about you? Do you know the number of threads to install the nuts on your C2 wheels?

On mine, it's close to 7 threads/turns on Braid's versus 9-10 threads/turns on stock wheels.

Mike D:

7 complete turns is perfectly acceptable. (Anything more than 5 complete turns is good.) And remember to install them by hand. No air guns here. You run the risk of messing up the paint finish inside the lug holes.

Don't forget to torque them in the air around 80 ft/lbs. You will need someone to step on the brakes when you torque them. If you can't torque them in the air, tighten them as much as possible by hand. Don't overdo it. And then gently let the car down until the tires barely touch the ground and can't be moved. If the car is hubcentric this is an alternative to torquing in the air. (If the wheels are not hubcentric and do not have hub rings... Torquing them in the air is a must.) Do not over-torque wheels. That is sure fire way to get warped rotors. :evil: Remember to retorque them after about 1000 miles.

Use a good high quality torque wrench. Sears has a nice one for a decent cost. Some of you may prefer Snap-On, Mac Tools, Facom, or any other high end model. Most will cost about $90.00 or higher. Anything priced at $50 or less is not worth it IMO.

And more importantly, go ahead and smile guys.. you know it feels good to have a new pair of shoes for your baby. :lol:

Braid Boys,

I've driven mine about 300km already with no issue, my 'tire-guy' told me the same as James...so me thinks it's safe. Please make sure you all post pix as soon as you have them. I saw Chad's yesterday as i delivered them half way down to Michigan where we met...and they're sweet...So Christian and Mike...we want to see these babies :D

George
http://ca.photos.yahoo.com/supraless

I will posts pics as soon as I can. The car looks crappy right now, since I took the body kit off to be sanded and resprayed. But the wheels look incredible. I have been looking for wheels for 2 years, and I think I found the perfect wheel for me. I have this ear-to-ear grin :D and it won't go away. My wife keeps asking me what I am smiling about.

Comments: I think the sizing that the rest of the guys went with is the best for looks, 9" wide in rear with 0 offset, and 8" wide in front with +10 offset. That 4" lip on the rear is incredible!

I went with a more practical setup for me, especially since I drive this car every day in Spring/Summer/Fall. 16x8's all the way around with a 0 offset. I will be able to rotate the tires this way, but the fronts stick out just slightly further than the fender.

Anyway, I will be at Dayton on Saturday, all day. Looking forward to seeing James, Mike, and others there. The MAF won't be here in time and it is day to day regarding the CF scooped hood...

Schwing!

Very nice looking

What's up with those tiny brakes? ;-)

Thanks for the info on lug nuts. BTW, my wheels won't be ready until Monday at the earliest due to the shop being so busy. :? That's just cutting it too close to Dayton meet. My wife says why not wait until after Dayton's meet. She just does not understand.

Women :roll: :D

Well.. it seems that women don't understand once they get married. Remind her about getting the new outfit for that special event back in the day. How it was so critical for her to have it... same idea. :lol:

Monday... the wheels and tires should only take an hour at maximum to get installed. Besides Mike, if you come down with your setup then we'd have more mk2's to photograph. :D

Meanwhile, I've been trying to detail my engine bay. I've got to do something when some of you are sporting turbos or engine swaps. Besides, its time I give a little more attention to my engine bay since my wheels are done.

Haha, how true about women! That's a good point about someone getting a new outfit! I'll have to remind my wife about that! :D

George.... those are some SEXy ass rims... Color me jealous...

Schwing!

Very nice looking

What's up with those tiny brakes? ;-)

Jim...I've got a huge gap in my wheel well that needs to be filled...so whenever you're ready :)

If you are going to be at E-Town in June, I can bring them...

Jim...I'll be a NJ for sure, you can bring them there as well as the rad if you're done by then; if i decide to get it.

George

The new wheels magnified a problem I have been ignoring. My car pulls strongly to the left, very much out of align. Well, my drivers side front tire now rubs on the back of the fender flare when turing left. I compared both sides and the drivers side wheel is definitely sitting further back then the passenger side. I stopped by a suspension/alignment shop this morning he immediately asked me if my car was pulling strongly to the left.....Yep. I am taking it back in on Wednesday so they can get it fixed up. Then I can put the body kit back on.

Yeah.. make sure the alignment is good. No sense in unnecessarily wearing out a brand new set of rubber.

This should apply to everyone at this point. Consider this your bi-annual reminder especially if you live in an area with a lot of potholes.

Well gang, I finally got the wheels on my car. It's silver metallic centers with polished lip. Looks really sharp. The rears fill the rear very well. I was concerned about rubbing as I installed the rears and noticed top portion of tire sticking out further than fender but then remember car jacked up and contributing exaggerated positive camber! BTW, I got 265/40-17 on rears, 235/45-17 on fronts.

The tape weights are on outer rims! I wished they are in inside. Does it make a difference which sides wts are on? I kinda want to place it on the inside myself!

Chad, I see that you have alignment issues. Hope, you'll make it to Dayton this weekend.

JamesR, I'm counting on you to take pics as I don't have a digital cam or scanner!

Mike:

For a wheel that is split in the middle: 0mm offset, the best and easiest way to get it balanced, unfortunately, is for the weights to be on both sides of the wheel toward the lip.

Our tire guys know I'm a stickler for aesthetics. :twisted: But knowing that the best balance is for both sides, asked me first before placing the weights. I told them on the inside: Get it balanced as best as you can. I'll live with the rest. Our guys are good. No vibrations.

Our guys will ask all customers where they want the weights. Some people have no issue as to where. Others do.

Glad he used tape weights. :)

Some guys will still use clamp-on weights even for expensive alloy wheels. :roll: You have to use clamp-on for steel rimmed wire wheels though. (Not that this applies to mk2 owners... then again.)

Thanks for reminding me. I need to get film for this weekend. I think Jim J will have his digital too.

most tire shops will use clamp on weights on your outer lip if you don't say anything. Those will ruin any good rim, even the stock supra wheels. I've refinished lots of wheels and wheel weight damage is pretty much impossible to repair. It just breaks my heart when I see a nice set of enkies or rikens or such with clamp on weights on the outside!

Agreed here.

When I had my BFG Radial TA's mounted on my P-Type wheels 8 years ago, THEY, the tire shop actually went ahead & put the weights on the backside. When I looked at the wheels & questioned them about "not balancing the wheels" because I could not see the weights, they said that for asthetic reasons on aluminum wheels, they will always put the weights on the rear & rarely ever the front.

Since then, when I've gone to Discount tires to have 3 sets of tires mounted, I've verbally requested to have the weights installed on there rear. So... Current set of Yoko A509's on the P-Type wheels, the Yoko AVS-I's on my Compomotive's, and the BFG Radial TA's on my MKI wheels, all of the weights are on the back.

Right now, the only set of wheels that I have, where the weights are mounted on the front, are on my set of "beater" P-Type wheels that have my Dunlop 225/60/14 studded snow tires on them. For those, I didn't really care where the weights were.

Later I'll have the tape weights moved to the inside.

Question, what do you use to clean off tape glue from polished rim without doing any damage or blemish? What can or cannot be used on polished rim? Contact cleaner? :shock:

Like...I don't get it, I know these aren't the greatest rims in the world, but wouldn't it just be common sense that the owner of the rims doesn't want the weights on the outside. :roll: Who in their right mind would want this, so why the hell do we have to mention that????

It's almost as dumb as the dude who test fitted my rims with the fricken air gun and scratched the paint off. What is it with these places??? :mad: .

Why is it a mechanically stupid person like myself can get a set of fancy smancy rims on a car without damage, but a place that's use to doing high end $#it scratches them 5 mins after touching them....sorry to rant and rave, but this crap is frustrating for me to hear...peace

Mike:

We have used Wurth's Rost-Off or WD-40. Be careful not to get any on the seams nor rotors. What I usually do is spray it onto a clean towel and press it onto the area needing to be cleaned, being careful to not let it run everywhere. Let it soak for a few minutes and then rub it off.

Some people will use a bug & tar remover thats clearcoat safe.

to get tape weight gunk off either use WD-40 or brake cleaner on a rag. You have to be careful with the brake cleaner because it can damage the clear coat if you let it sit but I've never had a problem spraying it on a rag and rubbing the stuff off.
As for how the wheels get balanced it depends on the mentality of the people working there. I know at our shop most everyone is into racing so we will assume to put weights on the outside because that gives you the best balance. If the customer requests it or if the wheels are obviously show, ie very clean, no scratches, etc, then we'll use tape weights on the inside of the wheel. The problem with deep dish wheels is that it's very hard to get a good balance without putting weights on the outside lip. Most places, including us, will try to balance the tire dynamically so it gets rid of vibrations not only up and down but also side to side across the width of the tire. If a customer has deep dish wheels and asks that we don't put weight on the outside it is impossible to balance them like this. You can try, but it won't be effective. The wheels end up getting balanced statically, only compensating for vibrations up and down, and it is very easy to get vibrations at high speeds. All I'm saying is don't rag on the tire guys for trying to give you the best balance, some people care more about vibration than a little extra weight showing.

Well I got the results back from the Alignment/Frame shop. My drivers side A-arm is bent, the frame is pushed back 7/16's of an inch, and my passenger side ball joint is shot. Yikes! No wonder the drivers side wheel rubs when turning left and the car shoots left when you let go of the steering wheel. If I can come up with a good set of A-arms, it will only cost me about $480 to get the work done. If I have to get the A-arms from Toyota....ouch! I know this is not the parts Wanted section, but if you have a set of rust-free A-arms, please let me know.

WOW those rims are... priceless

George,
Can you send the pics you posted to me so I can see them a little bigger.
joshrapier@juno.com

Saw Mike's rims when he came down for the Ohio meet. Man those are sweet rims. His car looked sweet when I was following him up to Quaker Steak & Lube in Columbus. Before all hell broke loose and cars started flying.

(Mind you, he put down some impressive numbers on the dyno too.)

Pic of Mike's car on the dyno (courtesy of Jeremy Hua)

http://www.dieseldigital.net/media/ohiosupras03/thumbnails/tnDSC00001.JPG (http://www.dieseldigital.net/media/ohiosupras03/images/DSC00001.JPG)

His car sitting pretty:
http://www.dieseldigital.net/media/ohiosupras03/thumbnails/tnDSC00074.JPG (ttp://www.dieseldigital.net/media/ohiosupras03/images/DSC00074.JPG)

James, thanks for showing the pics of my car and for compliments! Everyone enjoyed looking at my car and wheels! :D
I can't count how many times I had to open my hood to show the 7mgte swap! Pulled 301.7 rwhp, 324 rwtq at 14 psi. Not bad considering no chance to cool down after 45 min hwy trip from Dayton to Columbus and running way too rich from 4k and up.
I'm really proud to win highest hp for mk2 and most important of all "Best of Show"! Funny, how my wife was surprised! Had a great time!

Chad, sorry that you couldn't make it. :(

Mike,

car looks sweet man. Congrats on the awards, those are some pretty awesome numbers man. Anyone else take pix of your car, I'm dying to see some more shots...if not no big deal, we can see the car when you come up to the Toronto Meet :D

http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=37355fbe-7bd6-511a-1093-49f45d9a2e2b&size=lg

Yeah.. Chad too bad you couldn't make it down. Next year! ;-)

Mike: I swear that your car has the cleanest motor swap I've seen. I was telling my friends that it looked like you had just checked an option for the 7MGTE motor at the dealership when you ordered your car. Jim and Alan said that now they know what a motor swap is supposed to look like. Very clean install. Kudos.

BTW: That was an hour and 45 min trip

And kudos to your wife for being a good sport! Hope you both had fun.

You'll have to take a pic of your trophy to show everyone.

Before all Hell broke loose and cars started flying??? Please elaborate, are you talking about a spirited trip on the highway or did someone crash?

Saw Mike's rims when he came down for the Ohio meet. Man those are sweet rims. His car looked sweet when I was following him up to Quaker Steak & Lube in Columbus. Before all hell broke loose and cars started flying.

(Mind you, he put down some impressive numbers on the dyno too.)

Pic of Mike's car on the dyno (courtesy of Jeremy Hua)

http://www.dieseldigital.net/media/ohiosupras03/thumbnails/tnDSC00001.JPG (http://www.dieseldigital.net/media/ohiosupras03/images/DSC00001.JPG)

His car sitting pretty:
http://www.dieseldigital.net/media/ohiosupras03/thumbnails/tnDSC00074.JPG (ttp://www.dieseldigital.net/media/ohiosupras03/images/DSC00074.JPG)

Lets just say, we did some spirited driving. :twisted: :lol:

Oh yeah, that was 1 hr & 45min drive! My wife did enjoy the trip. Different folks took some pics but I did take some, too, after I got home. But that with a regular 35mm camera. Will have to scan it later after developing the pics.
Thanks for the compliment on the motor swap!

Those wheels/tires look fabulous.
Now that you've had them on on for a month, are there any clearance problems?

I'm going to get a set of wheels but I am afraid of getting the sizing/offset wrong.

Am I right in that MikeD and Karaki have:

Front: 17x8 +10mm offset with 235/45 R17 Tires
Rear: 17x9 0mm offset with 265/40 R17 Tires

I've been under my car and my measurements agree on the front, but every time I check the back I get a different measurement, and the 17x9's sound tight!

Is there anything else I should be looking at and am too slow to see?

Thanks!!!

George (Karaki) is running 245/40's in the front and 255/40's in the rear, a little different than Mike's setup. However, they both have the same wheel size, 17x8, +10 in front and 17x9, 0 offset in the rear. The sizing looks great on the car in person (I have seen George's, but not Mike's). the lip on the rears is HUGE 8)

82Spearco

I think that your being a little more conservative on the sizing is a practical idea.

I would like to know why you went with zero offset front and rear though?

You mentioned in a previous post that the fronts stick out a little past the flares a bit.

Did that fit the rear wells better, or ? The +10mm spacing should pull the fronts into the wells just enough to avoid that I would imagine.

Anyways, I'm sure they look great too. I am not sure that I have seen pictures of your wheels yet. The Supra looks SOOOOO elegant with that style wheel.

Jealous in Vancouver

I went with my sizing for practical reasons. This is my daily driver, for the most part, and I wanted to be able to rotate the wheels front to back. I have seen +10 all the way around and thought it was a little too pushed in at the rear, but perfect in the front. 0 is very nice in the rear, and sits about flush in the front, maybe extends and millimeter or two past the flare, very bold looking. Anywhere in between would be fine. If I remember right, Phil Dupler is running +3 offset all the way around on his and he is very happy.

The center disk on the Braid wheels is the same for the 16" and 17" wheels. The 17's step out to make the larger diameter. I run 45 series tires, they run 40 series tires, which was one of my motiviations, slightly more cushion on the nasty roads in my State. Anyway, it is all personal preference. I think you would be very happy with any of the setups we are running, especially for the $$.

82Spearco

I really appreciate the advice. It's so nice to talk to someone who has done the same things and has seen the results.

I'm going to ponder the car (and my navel) for the day and put in an order tomorrow.

I have changed my mind on each of 3 combinations half a dozen times already. When you put that much money down, you don't want the results to be dissapointing.

Thank you again for sharing your experience.

I'm also running the same combination on my Compomotive CXN's that Chad Zemer is running on his Braids. 16 x 8" Zero offset. 245/45/16 Yokohama AVS Intermediates. I also wanted to keep the same size all around (including the offset) for tire rotation reasons. I also don't have any tire rubbing problems as well. The tire size that I'm using ALSO keeps my speedometer reading ACCURATE!!! I have the same speedometer/tachometer readings as my stock P-Type wheels w/ the 225/60/14 Yokohama A509's. AND I also don't need to use spacers (some peeps don't mind, I did).

Conservative sizing?? Hardly... It's basically to each his own & what each individual owners wants for his custom wheels. Also don't forget that these wheel discussions have also been going on for YEARS on the MKII Yahoo list. With help from our wheel/tire experts Don Lew (Don L) and James Razor (Supra GTR) we've been able to come up with different tire & wheel combo's in the 16" & 17" sizes that will work well w/ our Supra's.

BTW Chad!!!! Our Compomotives are "supposedly" built to a Zero mm offset, but when Phil Dupler took measurements, he did notice that the offset is just a tiny bit off & the wheels (and mine) do stick out in the front just a hair. He did check the offset measurement & for some reason, the Compo CXN's are actually a +3mm offset. Not too bad. I have seen what a true zero mm offset looks like (Aaron Ingles (Silvermk2) & the 16 x 8" Epsilons that he has), and the front wheels are much more even w/ the front flare & don't stick out quite as far.

I'm running 17X8.5 in the front and the wheel does not go out of the flare. See the index page of my web page for a good picture of the front.

I have discussed this before. Yes the offset of the wheel is actually +36mm, but with a 1 inch adapter it is exactly +12mm. There is only 5mm clearance between the wheel and strut. No big deal, a tyre flexes at the bottom of the wheel. Not at the top.


Please see my new post "How to get 17 or bigger from 15 and 16s".

CJSREDPRA

Sorry, you are right. By conservative I meant that the same size wheels/tires could be more practical. Being able to rotate the wheels is a great idea. I DIDN't rotate my stock tires and the rears are definitely more worn than the fronts.

Your point about having DonL and Supra GTR here is well taken as well.

Without input from this forum, trying different wheel/tire combinations could be a very hit and miss affair....not to mention expensive.

As I said before, I was under the car trying to measure clearances, but with suspension droop when it's on jacks, the tight space between wheel and wheel well when it's on the ground make it very questionable. Obviously the best way to see if something fits is to try it. And seeing what you guys have done is priceless.

After measuring the rears, then seeing pictures of 17x9s in the wells, I'm shaking my head, going, boy were my measurements out!!!!! :shock:

It is a tight fit with 17x9's & 265/40-17's on the rear but no rubbing. Keep in mind that this tire o.d. is larger than stock which I knew but no problems. That's true that you can't rotate wheels unless you get 16x8's or 17x8's all around.
Also you gotta remember that having the wheels off the ground is not a good way to check for clearances. Yeah, the wheels stick out when jacked up due to positive camber.

Not sure if I can post some pic. Here's one if it works. This is after a 2003 Dayton meet where I won 2 trophies (Best of Show & Highest HP for mk2). You're welcome to scroll thru some slides.
http://www.celicasupra.com/miked/Dayton_3.jpg

Pic with 2 trophies http://www.celicasupra.com/miked/Dayton_1.jpg

Pic of my wife in my car at Dayton meet
http://www.celicasupra.com/miked/Dayton_2.jpg

Pic of my engine bay
http://www.celicasupra.com/miked/Dayton_9.jpg

Pic of Supra owner folks eating at Quaker Steak & Lube (what a cool place! it's a motorsports restaurant).
http://www.celicasupra.com/miked/Dayton_6.jpg

Dam you mike. you and your black beast. with you posting theas pics i cant make up my mined on what rim im going to go with --- Dam that car looks good Dave

all I see are Red X's....

tried cutting/pasting the url into another window...no dice.

Sorry guys, I didn't know that since I only own free Yahoo service, the pics won't show. Unless you are using yahoo service then you can cut and paste to review my pics.

Dave, hehe, thanks for the compliment.

Mike, can you email me the pics? zemerc@mi.gov

Thanks.

Chad, sure I will. Will you put the pics where everyone can see them? I'm not sure who can.

I can host them. send to: malloy@celicasupra.com

Malloy, OK, I'll send them to you, thanks! :D

You are all fixed up man (I edited the above posts) :) You can find the pics here:
http://www.celicasupra.com/miked/

Nice car :thumbup:

Hey, thanks for fixing my posts and for the compliment Mike!

mike d how do i get them rims!!!!!! those are sweet. can you send me some info on them.

thanks jeremy

Edit,
I'd recommend George K. as he knows about ordering thru Braid co. that will go smoothly and quick. :D

Please ignore the following old message:
Jeremy, I'd recommend going thru www.garagedynamics.com to order these wheels as there would be much less headache.

thanks mike will check into it.


jeremy

can you guys with the braid rims post a few pics for me. and the sizes you got. i am getting ready to try and purchase some rims through garage dynamics but would like to see what they look like on the cars.

can you guys with the braid rims post a few pics for me. and the sizes you got. i am getting ready to try and purchase some rims through garage dynamics but would like to see what they look like on the cars.

This should be all you need.

http://www.dieseldigital.net/media/ohiosupras03/images/DSC00001.JPG

Jeremy if you want I have some pix here: http://photos.yahoo.com/supraless of my rims when they first arrived. I have plenty more, send me an email to: george@raptorracing.com and I'll send you dozens more.

Mike...I have a quick question in regards to this earlier comment(sorry I just noticed it):

Jeremy, I'd recommend going thru www.garagedynamics.com to order these wheels as there would be much less headache.

Nick and I (Raptor Racing) work our butts off to ensure that our customers are pleased as punch when they purchase from us, especially during group buys. If you had a concern with the Braid group buy I do wish you brought it to my attention. I thought I bent over backwards to keep you guys in the loop. Considering the huge language barrier and the fact that they never made MK2 fitment rims before I thought things went relatively smoothly. Please let me know how we went wrong so I can ensure that it never happens again...thanks.

George if I may...
Raptor Racing contacted me regarding shipping these rims in from Spain.
From what I understand, there were two modes available.
1. Braid ships to your door. Big dollars
2. Ship to closest airport. Saves a bunch but have to participate.
The choice was everyones to make.
What I know is that ALL goods arrived in a very timely fashion.
For us Canadians, yes, there was a bit of a customs hassle. George in fact, "cleared" Chads/Michigans through Canadian customs and met him half way for receipt. This was because Detroit is not officially a "international" airport.
Christian - did you have any probs ???
How bouts the other guys on the list ???

Jeremy if you want I have some pix here: http://photos.yahoo.com/supraless of my rims when they first arrived. I have plenty more, send me an email to: george@raptorracing.com and I'll send you dozens more.

Mike...I have a quick question in regards to this earlier comment(sorry I just noticed it):

Jeremy, I'd recommend going thru www.garagedynamics.com to order these wheels as there would be much less headache.

Nick and I (Raptor Racing) work our butts off to ensure that our customers are pleased as punch when they purchase from us, especially during group buys. If you had a concern with the Braid group buy I do wish you brought it to my attention. I thought I bent over backwards to keep you guys in the loop. Considering the huge language barrier and the fact that they never made MK2 fitment rims before I thought things went relatively smoothly. Please let me know how we went wrong so I can ensure that it never happens again...thanks.

Hey George,
At the time when I posted about garagedynamics.com I wasn't sure if you would do another group buy (BTW, that was a year ago!). You didn't do anything wrong (only I did regarding hub cap clearance). If you do continue with ordering Braid wheels then I highly recommend everyone to order through you! I'm sure it's much less headache (slow response from Braid due to language barrier) this time around! :wink: Again, thanks for all the hard work and we did get the wheels within a month after ordering which IMO is quick!

Scarletlizard,
I had them shipped to closest airport. Went to airport dock where it was delivered, grabbed some customs paperwork went to US customs to have it cleared/signed, went back to airport dock to pick up wheels. Well worth saving shipping this way.

How many design does braid has? Color option? I recieve a email from Raptor racing about the deal and it was pretty great but I forgot to ask about the design they carry. Are they anymore design to chose from? Or just one kind. I like the one that are on our CS.com logo. But in chorme.. BTW nice rims you guys got.

Mike,

thank you for clearing that up, I apologize if I seemed a little defensive but I was very concerned that I might have done something wrong. Please don't mention the measurements again, we all were responsible for that...we all could have checked and double checked...besides we fixed that very easily. :flex: .

Import Eve,

here is Braid's line of 'Future Concpet' Rims:

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v346/raptorracing/BraidRims.jpg

These rims can be painted for free in the following colours:

White, Black, Red, Silver, Silver Glitter, Anthracite and IIRC Blue. Custom Colours can be done for a fee. I don't recall that fee now...My laptop is in for repairs and I can't seem to get my outlook pdf on this loaner laptop.

Braid has other series of Rims such as their 'Forged Concept' and 'Billet Concept' and their new 'Quatroplezas'. These series are much more than their Future Concpt line. If anyone wants, when I get my laptop up and running I can scan the catalog they gave me.

I hope that helpls.

George if I may...
Raptor Racing contacted me regarding shipping these rims in from Spain.
From what I understand, there were two modes available.
1. Braid ships to your door. Big dollars
2. Ship to closest airport. Saves a bunch but have to participate.
The choice was everyones to make.
What I know is that ALL goods arrived in a very timely fashion.
For us Canadians, yes, there was a bit of a customs hassle. George in fact, "cleared" Chads/Michigans through Canadian customs and met him half way for receipt. This was because Detroit is not officially a "international" airport.
Christian - did you have any probs ???
How bouts the other guys on the list ???

I had very little troubles. I went to the warehouse, got the papers, then went to the airport customs to have it signed off. The guy at customs gave me some shit about the paperwork. So long ago I don't remember what he was bitching about, but he signed it off anyways.

I didn't have any issues. George coordinated resolving the centerbore issue, and he met me half way to deliver the wheels.

Go to this site and see several pics of my car and a couple of George's with the Braid Wheels. Over a year a later, and I still love 'em!

http://www.celicasupra.com/tomeet/

Mine are 16x8, 0 offset all the way around.

I like the indianapolis one if it has lip! But the GT is also nice. Is all the price the same with all the rims or does the rim differ? Sorry for all the Q's just that got intrested in the rims.:D

All the rims in the pix above are the same price and will have the same lip...the only thing that differs is the centre section.

Can you still get the MKII centercaps? For the Indianapolis?

Yes I can....I can put that centre cap on any of their rims.