View Full Version : 16x7 rims 225/50-R16 tires Under a $1000


Ryan
08-08-2004, 06:49 PM
Got theses at Les Schwab for around $951 with wheel locks.There called VTEC Monoblock and were in there current catalog. Wheels were $97.87 each. tires are ZEXIUS All Seasons Blackwalls and were $94.90 each.
I was told that these same wheels will also fit a BMW, don't know if thats true or not but it might help in the search for aftermarket wheels.

Not sure what the backspacing is but the recipt says: 16x7 4-100/4.5.
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v334/vettmania/83_Toyota_after2.jpg

rsdeo
08-08-2004, 07:35 PM
Very clean car. Though that's a P-type. Nice.

FWDsux
08-08-2004, 08:54 PM
I had a pair of those Zexius tires....for about 20 miles before I returned them. Dunno if it was a bad set of tires, but they made my car VERY unstable.

Nice looking car! Let's get some side shots!

CJSREDPRA
08-09-2004, 01:34 AM
Yep, we now need to see some side shots to see how the wheels/tires sit in relation to the fender flares.

Am also really curious as to how you got those wheels to fit on the lugs, if you say the bolt pattern stated is correct (4.100), and ours requires a 4.114.3 bolt pattern. Yeah it's close but just a bit off.

Plus I find it odd that Les Shwab of all places (especially in the Seattle/Renton area) has wheels from off the shelf that will fit our cars. Just a very skeptical local.....

FYI.. We've been told by some of our resident wheel experts that 4-bolt BMW wheels won't fit our cars.

SilverMk2
08-09-2004, 02:20 AM
He mentioned they were 4x100/4.5"(114.3), so I'm assuming multilug wheels here.

dogstar
08-09-2004, 03:53 AM
very nice... do they have a website?

i wonder what the offset is, might be curious to see what they look like on my L.

SilverMk2
08-09-2004, 10:27 AM
http://www.lesschwab.com . Not sure if they are in there though.

Racefiend
08-09-2004, 02:50 PM
WOW! Now you can say your Supra has VTEC! :P

BillyM
08-09-2004, 03:10 PM
They dont otherwise?!

*takes stickers back off...*

--BillyM

Ryan
08-09-2004, 05:35 PM
Doh, should have looked at the wheel before opening mouth(insert foot)
As for lookin' clean it is but it isnt' (it has a shady past) :(
Also i was not sure if it was a L or P type as i'm not sure what year it really is. ( that shady past has my head spinin')
Also they had to bring the wheels in from a Portland OR. Les Schwab store.
Here is the side shots and a closeup of the centers
and a closeup of the wheel and tire mounted
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/vettmania/front.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/vettmania/rear.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/vettmania/Frontwheel.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/vettmania/closeup.jpg

rsdeo
08-10-2004, 12:23 AM
If it's got factory flares it's a Ptype. The wheels look ~+25 offset.

Nice pics.

3000cc MK2
08-10-2004, 12:26 AM
tire and rim combo is too tucked in the fender flares but a spacer should do the trick to make it look nice (even with the fender) just my 0.02

supra8215
08-10-2004, 12:47 AM
i like the rims w/o the center caps...im a fan of rims w/o center caps like Racing Hart C5 knock offs w/o the center caps.....can i get a shot w/o centercaps but to the side?...thanks in advance

Supra GTR
08-10-2004, 11:44 AM
Don't you mean open-lug rims?

Rims that have caps that are missing look like they got vandalized.


Regards,
James R

Ryan
08-10-2004, 04:19 PM
Hey Jarrod you want just the wheel or the whole car?

supra8215
08-10-2004, 05:39 PM
The whole car please...btw your supe is looking nice..those rims are growing me :D

James R (supra gtr) some rims look like that but i like rims w/o them...I dont know its something else wierd about me :? :wink:

Import_Eve
08-14-2004, 02:05 AM
That some nice rims you got there.

Ryan
08-16-2004, 01:00 PM
Hey Jarrod is this what your lookin for?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/vettmania/IMAG0027b.jpg

supra8215
08-16-2004, 03:19 PM
Vtec monoblock u said?....wonder if i can get some around here... THANKS ALOT DUDE :D Two thumbs up for effort!

CJSREDPRA
08-16-2004, 06:45 PM
Will try this again....

Can you show us some side views, that shows us the tops of the tires in relation to the fender flares. Very hard to see this in the pictures, other than from a glance, they look like they are sitting inward to far. Would not be too surprised if these are a +25mm offset.

And yes, adapters can fix this. Try not to go w/ spacers (has been discussed in other threads).

Ryan
08-20-2004, 09:01 PM
Will try this again....

Can you show us some side views, that shows us the tops of the tires in relation to the fender flares. Very hard to see this in the pictures, other than from a glance, they look like they are sitting inward to far. Would not be too surprised if these are a +25mm offset.

And yes, adapters can fix this. Try not to go w/ spacers (has been discussed in other threads).

What are you looking for? I have already posted side view pics on the first page.
Also i am not going to "fix" anything because nothing is wrong

FWDsux
08-20-2004, 10:16 PM
Ryan, what chris is asking for is this:
This is Mr. Eng's front wheel 16x8 with about -3mm offset IIRC
http://www.pbase.com/image/32811975/medium.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/image/32811975/large.jpg)

This is mine, 17x8 with +10mm offset in front and 17x9 with 0mm offset in rear:
http://www.pbase.com/image/32812047/medium.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/image/32812047/large.jpg)

He wants to see, in your case, how much they are sucked in to gauge what kinda offset they are. :)

supra8215
08-21-2004, 01:18 AM
ahhhh....im starting to understand this offset thing...so the more the negative number say -10 or -11 the -11 is farther out than the -10 but just by a little bit...I always read threads about this but i cant seem to understand...but i think the pics helped thanks...

Please pm me and maybe give me a little explanation on this matter :roll: but .......

BlackOpsRacing
08-21-2004, 09:22 AM
i think its 0mm offset is with the mounting face right in the middle of the rim either that or directly under the first ridge from the middle of the rim moving to the right towards the styling face...
positive offset(new cars like fwd cars) makes the mounting face further out to the styling side of the rim. flatter front surface (ack!)
and negative brings it in towards the other side of the rim (not the styling side, the open side)

:shrug:

supra8215
08-21-2004, 09:37 PM
and thats what spacers are for ....sweetness ..
<~~~~ doesnt feel dumb ne more.. :lol:

CJSREDPRA
08-21-2004, 09:59 PM
See previous postings on this subject.....

Spacers..... Eeek... Unwanted load on the wheel bearings...

Adapters.... This is what you want!!!! Even to move the wheels outward a bit. And no harsh load on the bearings.

supra8215
08-21-2004, 10:39 PM
sorry...i meant adapters :wink: ...washes his mouth out w/ soap..

Ryan
09-03-2004, 01:55 PM
Doh, should have looked at the wheel before opening mouth(insert foot)
As for lookin' clean it is but it isnt' (it has a shady past) :(
Also i was not sure if it was a L or P type as i'm not sure what year it really is. ( that shady past has my head spinin')
Also they had to bring the wheels in from a Portland OR. Les Schwab store.
Here is the side shots and a closeup of the centers
and a closeup of the wheel and tire mounted
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/vettmania/front.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/vettmania/rear.jpg


I posted these earler. if they were not good enough to see what your lookin for all you had to do was give an example of what you wanted.

Thanks to FWDsux clearing up the misunderstanding. as for new pics i'm in the middle of moving so i will post new pic as soon as i can.

dogstar
09-03-2004, 08:46 PM
See previous postings on this subject.....

Spacers..... Eeek... Unwanted load on the wheel bearings...

Adapters.... This is what you want!!!! Even to move the wheels outward a bit. And no harsh load on the bearings.

um, im no physics major, but how does this differ?

in both cases, if the wheels are properly torqued, and assuming the same thickness of spacers and adaptors, the wheels will be the same distance outboard, and i thought that change is what put the load on the wheel bearings.
i could be entirely wrong here, but i dont think i am.

what i was told a long time ago by an metallurgy and mechanical design engineer is that spacers arent safe because they require longer wheel studs. the longer studs are more prone to bending and breaking because there is more leverage against them further from the base.
adaptors are gonna put the same load on the bearings, AND add weight, a small amount, but all the same its weight. their main benefit is using nice short studs.

grand
10-15-2004, 02:32 AM
ya hey what is the biggest size wheel that you can put on the supra?
keep scratchin my head!!!

Import_Eve
11-04-2004, 09:47 PM
Ryan, what chris is asking for is this:
This is Mr. Eng's front wheel 16x8 with about -3mm offset IIRC
http://www.pbase.com/image/32811975/medium.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/image/32811975/large.jpg)

This is mine, 17x8 with +10mm offset in front and 17x9 with 0mm offset in rear:
http://www.pbase.com/image/32812047/medium.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/image/32812047/large.jpg)

He wants to see, in your case, how much they are sucked in to gauge what kinda offset they are. :)


I think the -3 offset look much better.

williamb82
11-04-2004, 10:04 PM
18's have been fitted, but imho 16's are perfect. you get less sidewall with a 17 and if you hit a pothole that means its more likely to get dinged then a 16. dont want my wheels getting rashed. thad suck.
william

p.s. imho those wheels would look better with the centers in a dark gunmetal gray or black and leave the lip polished.

zank
11-04-2004, 11:33 PM
Ryan, what chris is asking for is this:
This is Mr. Eng's front wheel 16x8 with about -3mm offset IIRC
http://www.pbase.com/image/32811975/medium.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/image/32811975/large.jpg)

This is mine, 17x8 with +10mm offset in front and 17x9 with 0mm offset in rear:
http://www.pbase.com/image/32812047/medium.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/image/32812047/large.jpg)

He wants to see, in your case, how much they are sucked in to gauge what kinda offset they are. :)


I think the -3 offset look much better.

But see the problem with that is that if you lower your car too much they rub on your flares Unless you have some really stiff springs, even with that they still rub

FWDsux
11-04-2004, 11:49 PM
ya hey what is the biggest size wheel that you can put on the supra?
keep scratchin my head!!!

IIRC, Rsdeo has 19's, if you mean diameter, then what you can get made is the limit

Width now, I'd say 9 in front and 10 in rear with VERY specific offsets and possibly some slight reshaping of the fender liner...

Ryan
12-07-2004, 10:21 PM
is it just me or do these look like my wheels with a redesigned center cap?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/vettmania/RacingHartC5.jpg

84RA65
02-18-2005, 07:46 AM
Ryan, what chris is asking for is this:
This is Mr. Eng's front wheel 16x8 with about -3mm offset IIRC
http://www.pbase.com/image/32811975/medium.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/image/32811975/large.jpg)

This is mine, 17x8 with +10mm offset in front and 17x9 with 0mm offset in rear:
http://www.pbase.com/image/32812047/medium.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/image/32812047/large.jpg)

He wants to see, in your case, how much they are sucked in to gauge what kinda offset they are. :)


I think the -3 offset look much better.

I disagree, they look a little messier to me...or rather, the wheel inside the flare looks much cleaner. Speaking of cleanliness, with the wheel inside the flare you would probably keep a cleaner car with not quite as much dirt and mud etc. flicking up onto the car.